20070517
Log
TZ UTC+1
05:01 mdz good day all 05:01 cjwatson good afternoon Vietnam 05:01 mdz I'm trying to remember which countries have holidays today 05:02 Mithrandir .no, .dk, .de, .fr AIUI. 05:02 bdmurray not me 05:02 Mithrandir I'm not really here, I'm leaving for dinner at my father's in 15-ish minutes. 05:02 mdz that certainly accounts for a chunk 05:03 mdz BenC: kernel team accounted for? 05:03 cjwatson so I'm expecting BenC, bryce_, kylem, pkl, rtg 05:03 mdz Keybuk is ill today 05:03 BenC missing two 05:03 cjwatson and bdmurray 05:03 mdz and Riddell is on leave 05:03 mdz but I believe iwj is expected 05:04 rtg_ here 05:04 bdmurray I'm here too 05:04 tkamppeter .pt is not a holiday, I am here. 05:05 BenC I think everyone thought like I did, meeting in an hour from now 05:05 cjwatson ok 05:05 cjwatson bryce_: ping? 05:05 mdz BenC: why? 05:05 BenC 16:00 UTC == 12 noon my time 05:05 mdz oh, Scott's reminder and the distro team calendar disagree 05:06 BenC right 05:06 mdz I have a conflict at 1700 BST 05:06 cjwatson iwj: ping? 05:07 mdz if everyone is here, I'd prefer to do it now 05:07 BenC pkl and kyle are probably not required, so I say move on, and let them catch up 05:07 cjwatson mdz: also adilson? 05:08 mdz he's apparently at lunch, so probably expecting 1600 UTC 05:08 mdz cjwatson: the email I sent to you/Scott earlier outlines my current areas of interest 05:08 mdz cjwatson: could you run the meeting at 1600 UTC for me? 05:09 cjwatson I had been hoping to leave at 1630 UTC today 05:09 cjwatson but I guess so 05:10 mdz cjwatson: do you have any agenda items? 05:10 bryce_ cjwatson: I'm here 05:10 cjwatson mdz: not at this point 05:10 iwj Hi. 05:11 iwj Oh, now would be OK. 05:11 bryce_ now's fine for me too 05:11 cjwatson why don't we just go ahead now; we seem to have nearly everyone 05:11 mdz sounds good 05:12 cjwatson first item is UDS output 05:12 cjwatson all the workshops should be written up, ideally by the end of this week 05:12 mdz Colin and Scott will review with each of you 05:13 cjwatson if there are any parts you can't remember, the sysadmins are working on producing voice recordings, but hopefully you all have notes 05:13 mdz it's important to have the writeups from UDS done soon, as memory fades 05:13 cjwatson does anyone have any questions about that process? 05:13 mdz for specs which were produced independent of UDS, the hard deadline is 31 May 05:14 mdz but enough detail is needed at this stage for the selection process 05:14 cjwatson mdz and I have done an initial pass over everything we could find and tried to set priorities 05:14 mdz everything which is concrete and feasible should be proposed as a gutsy goal 05:14 cjwatson no doubt some things will need to be added, and others tweaked 05:14 iwj gutsy goal> Oh, I should check that for mine. 05:15 mdz the tech board, canonical, etc. will review the list and construct the overall roadmap 05:16 mdz is everyone clear on what's expected for gutsy specs? 05:16 mdz silent assent :-) 05:17 Mithrandir is there anything different than before? 05:17 Mithrandir I'm aware of the template changes Scott made 05:17 Mithrandir but anything else? 05:17 mdz the timeline we just explained 05:17 Mithrandir I meant the content. 05:17 Mithrandir (sorry for not being clear) 05:17 mdz nope 05:17 cjwatson speaking of which, the spectemplate now has a release note as a mandatory item 05:17 cjwatson I can well imagine that a release note will not be appropriate for everything 05:18 mdz the template has changed slightly; if it's not self-explanatory, ask 05:18 iwj I've been writing those in the past tense even though they're in the future. I assume that's correct ? 05:18 cjwatson how about "mandatory for user-visible items"? 05:18 cjwatson iwj: writing which? 05:18 iwj == Release Note == 05:18 cjwatson yes, it's for cut-and-pasting 05:18 mdz cjwatson: it's a good exercise to describe the value of the work, even if it's not user-visible 05:18 cjwatson (theoretically) 05:18 iwj I think the person assembling the release notes can decide to ditch it if it doesn't seem sufficiently interesting. 05:19 cjwatson in that case, I will edit the template to say that not all notes will necessarily be included 05:19 mdz it should be obvious who the approver should be for each spec, if it isn't already set 05:19 mdz cjwatson: works for me 05:19 iwj mdz: Do you mean that we should set the approvers or do you mean the techboard will know ? 05:19 cjwatson if in doubt about the approver of a spec, it's the manager of the main person in Canonical responsible 05:20 iwj Right. 05:20 mdz iwj: you should 05:20 cjwatson unless there's some exceptional circumstance (e.g. other expert) 05:20 mdz otherwise it won't show up on that person's approval list 05:21 mdz ok 05:22 mdz we're planning a mobile mini-sprint next month, which just a few folks will attend 05:22 mdz if you're working on a team project which would benefit from such an event, please let me know 05:22 mdz that's pretty much all from me today 05:23 mdz other business for the meeting? 05:24 cjwatson oh, other item is merges 05:24 cjwatson I assume everyone is aware from -devel-announce that the merge-o-matic is running 05:25 cjwatson the gutsy release schedule calls for Debian auto-syncs to be frozen on 21 June, by which time all packages in main requiring a merge should have been merged at least once 05:25 BenC cjwatson: any chance of getting a merges-bof for people who aren't yet familiar with the process? 05:26 BenC docs are currently geared toward people who already know debian packaging 05:26 mdz I think there's an existing MOTU school bit for that 05:26 BenC ah, maybe those docs are a bit better 05:26 cjwatson by my count, that would be amitk, asac, bdmurray, bryce, evand, pkl, rtg, maybe kwwii 05:26 cjwatson but it's not too critical for the kernel team or bdmurray 05:26 cjwatson or kwwii come to that 05:26 BenC merges seemed a good way for amitk, pkl and rtg to get into packaging 05:27 bryce_ kees schooled brian and I on merges (but using DaD not MoM) 05:27 cjwatson BenC: a fair point 05:27 cjwatson if the MOTU school documentation isn't adequate, let me know and I'll be happy to run a quick bootcamp 05:27 BenC ok 05:28 mdz sounds like a good topic for the mailing list, as some new folks aren't at this meeting 05:28 cjwatson to clarify, after the Debian import freeze on 21 June, merges and explicitly-requested syncs are still permitted without approval until 16 August 05:28 cjwatson https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule 05:28 cjwatson mdz: ok, that's all from me 05:29 mdz ok 05:29 mdz last call for other business 05:29 bdmurray The distro sprint is in early July on that schedule right? 05:29 cjwatson bdmurray: correct, the "Developer Sprint" item 05:30 mdz that wasn't on the calendar yet, fixing that 05:30 bdmurray Some was trying to tell me it was August but I won't name names. 05:30 cjwatson if it was me, I claim temporary insanity. :) 05:30 BenC I think it was me, but I claim too much beer in Spain 05:31 bdmurray heh 05:31 BenC sprint is London, correct? 05:31 iwj t 05:32 rtg_ How many days? It starts on a Thursday. 05:32 mdz BenC: yes 05:32 mdz rtg_: monday-friday that week 05:32 iwj rtg_: No, that Thursday is in the middle. 05:32 cjwatson I'll edit the schedule to note that 05:32 iwj All of the week-long things are on the schedule `on the Thursday' just because that's how the schedule is laid out. 05:32 ogra BenC, dont forget the fridge magnet ;) 05:33 cjwatson any other business? 05:33 BenC we don't have magnets here, we staple things to the cows 05:33 ogra so bring a cow then i heard there is lots of space ;) 05:33 mdz ok, that's a wrap then 05:33 mdz thanks, all. apologies for the time confusion
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