20100210
Agenda
- Review ACTION points from previous meeting (jib)
- Alpha3 progress review (ttx)
- Make sure status is updated on each of your blueprint whiteboards EOD on Tuesdays !
Prio 1 specs < 70% completed: uec-testing, mysql-5.0, seeds
Prio 2 specs < 50% completed: daily-vcs, puppet-etckeeper-integration, puppet-uec-ec2-integration
server-lucid-papercuts (ttx)
Nomination review -- Please have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bugs in advance
- Discuss n bugs in x weeks goal
server-lucid-apport-hooks update (zul)
Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (soren)
Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen)
Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review (mathiaz)
- Open Discussion
- Agree on next meeting date and time
Minutes
Review ACTION points from previous meeting (jib)
- ACTION: ttx to announce papercuts nominations
- ttx: done
- ACTION: zul to do another call to action for the apport hooks involvement
- zul: will do today
- ACTION: zul to raise php5.3 update on -server and -devel mailinglist, outline which apps are currently not working with 5.3
- zul: done
Alpha3 progress review (ttx)
- Make sure status is updated on each of your blueprint whiteboards EOD on Tuesdays !
Prio 1 specs < 70% completed: uec-testing, mysql-5.0, seeds
- uec-testing (mathiaz)
- kirkland: testing iso's today
- mathiaz: good shape
- mysql-5.0 (zul)
- zul: upload today
- [ACTION] zul to forward issues about ctbd to jelmer to see if those can be lifted before FF
- [ACTION] zul to do another call to action for the apport hooks involvement
- Discussion on RHCS, whether to keep in main, move to universe; mailing list thread should reach a conclusion soon
- daily-vcs (zul)
- zul: been working on higher priority specs
- puppet-etckeeper-integration (mathiaz, soren)
- soren, mathiaz: should merge from debian unstable, not in danger
- uec-testing (mathiaz)
Prio 2 specs < 50% completed: daily-vcs, puppet-etckeeper-integration, puppet-uec-ec2-integration
server-lucid-papercuts (ttx)
- Each bug was reviewed, voted on with -1/0/+1
- ttx updated all bugs accordingly
- for details on each bug, please see the logs below
server-lucid-apport-hooks update (zul)
- zul: all prior 1 are done except for openssh its pending a review with cjwatson
ttx: As a general reminder, apport hooks are easy, and a great way of contributing your first patches/branches to Ubuntu
Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (soren)
- smoser: new guy starts: 15th (which is a US holiday) so 16th
- soren: handed over automatic ISO testing stuff to the QA team. It'll be running in the DC soon.
Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen)
- jjohansen: new EC2 kernel is checked in, has the latest updates, and updated configs
Weekly SRU review: [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review]] (mathiaz)
- [ACTION] kirkland to propose a karmic fix for bug 503180 in PPA
- kirkland: to upload karmic eucalyptus iptables fix for SRU, PPA first, then -proposed
- done
- kirkland: to upload karmic eucalyptus iptables fix for SRU, PPA first, then -proposed
Launchpad bug 364581 in mod-auth-mysql "Crash when logging in" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364581
- mathiaz: accepting
Open Discussion
- kirkland: tftpd-hpa in lucid sucks
- stgraber: I'm still not sure about what to do here but I'm very tempted to restore the old behavior
- done
- stgraber: I'm still not sure about what to do here but I'm very tempted to restore the old behavior
- ttx: Ubuntu bug 508382 in bacula "bconsole does not connect to bacula-director" [Medium,Confirmed]
Agree on next meeting date and time
- ttx: That will be again same place same time, for at least one more week
Log
[14:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 08:01. The chair is ttx. [14:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [14:01] <ttx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting [14:01] <ttx> Agenda ^ [14:02] <ttx> smoser: around ? [14:02] <ivoks> (date on the meeting is wrong) [14:02] <smoser> here [14:02] <ttx> jib is not available so I'll chair this one [14:02] <ttx> kirkland is scribe, though he is not available right now [14:03] <ttx> mathiaz is probably on a plane somewhere [14:03] * mathiaz waves [14:03] <ttx> hah [14:03] <ttx> Good, so we have quorum :) [14:03] <ttx> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting [14:03] <MootBot> New Topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [14:03] * nijaba hopes mathias does not make the plane wave [14:03] <ttx> ACTION: ttx to announce papercuts nominations [14:03] <ttx> done [14:03] <ttx> ACTION: zul to do another call to action for the apport hooks involvement [14:04] <zul> will do today [14:04] <ttx> ACTION: zul to raise php5.3 update on -server and -devel mailinglist, outline which apps are currently not working with 5.3 [14:04] <zul> done [14:04] <zul> i think the conensus of the community is to move to 5.3 [14:04] <ttx> zul: is that expected to generate an insane amount of work ? [14:04] <zul> which means I have to start cracking ;) [14:05] <mathiaz> zul: what the list of packages that will be broken by moving to 5.3? [14:05] <zul> ttx: not really, some package s in universe will have to be updated [14:05] <ivoks> + for 5.3 [14:05] <nijaba> mathiaz: none in main, hopefully [14:05] <ttx> zul: ok, break them first [14:05] <ttx> [TOPIC] Alpha3 progress review [14:05] <MootBot> New Topic: Alpha3 progress review [14:05] <zul> drupal is the big one big one but we already have drupal6 === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta [14:06] <ttx> So we'll concentrate on prio 1 specs < 70% completion and prio 2 specs < 50% [14:06] <ttx> uec-testing (mathiaz), quick update on status ? [14:06] <kirkland> ttx: i plan on testing today's iso [14:06] <mathiaz> ttx: I think we're in good shape there [14:07] <mathiaz> ttx: most of the remaining items are about doing the tests [14:07] <kirkland> ttx: i'll sync with mathiaz before commencing [14:07] <ttx> kirkland: glad you could make it [14:07] <ttx> kirkland, mathiaz: ack [14:07] <ttx> mysql-5.0 (zul): ETA for mysql-cluster [14:07] <kirkland> ttx: my bip proxy server crashed, OOM errors, kernel panic [14:07] <zul> ttx: upload it today hopeflly [14:07] <ttx> seeds (mathiaz): are we reaching a conclusion on RHCS ? [14:08] <ttx> seeds (zul): did you forward the ctdb issues to Jelmer ? [14:08] <mathiaz> ttx: hmmm [14:08] <zul> ttx: not yet [14:08] <mathiaz> ttx: I had a short talk with ivoks [14:08] <mathiaz> nijaba: what's your position on rhcs in main for lucid? [14:08] <ttx> [ACTION] zul to forward issues about ctbd to jelmer to see if those can be lifted before FF [14:08] <MootBot> ACTION received: zul to forward issues about ctbd to jelmer to see if those can be lifted before FF [14:09] <ttx> [ACTION] zul to do another call to action for the apport hooks involvement [14:09] <MootBot> ACTION received: zul to do another call to action for the apport hooks involvement [14:09] <ttx> (backlog) [14:09] <nijaba> mth [14:09] <nijaba> mathiaz: my position is simple: we should follow ivok's reco [14:10] <RoAkSoAx> and that was the plan, to demote RHCS and include the new cluster stack [14:10] <ttx> nijaba: if ivoks is maintaining it, it makes sense for it to be in universe ? [14:10] * Daviey wonders if anyone actually uses RHCS anyway [14:11] <mathiaz> right - that's more the question - main versus universe [14:11] <ttx> Daviey: ivoks does [14:11] <mathiaz> After having talked with Fabio it seems to be a bad idea to keep all of rhcs in main for lucid [14:11] <nijaba> ttx: that's another discussion, but yes, I am afraid it is the only solution for 10.04 [14:11] <ttx> my understanding is that it's difficult to have the new cluster stack in main without keeping most of RHCS i main [14:11] <mathiaz> and the current cluster stack is still a moving part [14:12] <mathiaz> so from an LTS perspective, maintenance for 5 years is also reduced [14:12] <mathiaz> ttx: not really [14:12] <mathiaz> ttx: most of the binary packages can be moved to universe [14:13] <nijaba> we have to be conscious that we are introducing a gap in our feature coverage, but I don't think it really matters [14:13] <ttx> mathiaz: ok [14:13] <ttx> mathiaz: that thread should reach a conclusion soon, then [14:13] <ttx> Maybe a little more discussion can't hurt [14:13] * mathiaz agrees [14:14] <ttx> ok, moving on [14:14] <ttx> daily-vcs (zul): quick update on status ? [14:14] * Daviey would be highly suprised if any enterprise used lucid RHCS in >3 years anyway. So lack of being in main makes little difference. [14:14] <zul> ttx: been working on the higher priority specs [14:14] <ttx> puppet-etckeeper-integration (mathiaz, soren): any progress to report ? [14:14] * nijaba agrees with Daviey [14:14] <zul> ttx: no progress though [14:14] <ttx> Daviey++ [14:15] * RoAkSoAx agrees with Daviey too [14:15] <Daviey> Shhh! We've moved on :) [14:15] <mathiaz> ttx: waiting on merging 0.25.4 from debian [14:15] <ttx> puppet-uec-ec2-integration (mathiaz): not started yet, is it in danger ? [14:15] <ttx> soren ^is this under way ? [14:15] <soren> Oh hai! [14:15] <mathiaz> ttx: it's in unstable now [14:16] <ttx> soren: o/ [14:16] <soren> No news, no. [14:16] <mathiaz> ttx: ec2-integration: I'm planning to work on that this week [14:16] <mathiaz> ttx: I don't see it in danger for alpha3 [14:17] <mathiaz> soren: 0.25.4 is in unstable now - it should be merged in lucid [14:17] <ttx> soren: are you still on track to complete the etckeeper integration item ? [14:17] <soren> mathiaz: Cool. I'll do that soon. [14:17] <ttx> ok [14:17] <soren> ttx: I believe so, yes. [14:18] <ttx> Questions on alpha3 progress ? [14:18] <ttx> Other things affecting alpha3 that anyone wants to report ? [14:18] <ttx> Moving on. [14:18] <ttx> [TOPIC] server-lucid-papercuts : Nomination review [14:18] <MootBot> New Topic: server-lucid-papercuts : Nomination review [14:18] <ttx> Please see list at https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bugs [14:19] <ttx> We'll go through them, quick +1 / +0 / -1 from those that reviewed the list [14:19] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/24741 [14:19] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 24741 in samba "Spurious "account_policy_get failed" messages on install" [Wishlist,Triaged] [14:19] <ttx> +1 [14:20] <kirkland> ttx: -1 on the password feedback one [14:20] <ttx> just a sec :) [14:20] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/56679 [14:20] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 56679 in netcfg "provide a method to use a specified MAC-address as the installation device" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [14:20] <ttx> debian installer thing... +0 [14:20] <nijaba> ttx: move it to foundations? [14:21] <kirkland> ttx: +0 [14:21] <ttx> well, its already in their realm, and they don't do papercuts :P [14:21] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/165184 [14:21] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 165184 in amavisd-new "amavisd-new + spamassassin: cronjob spams root user" [Medium,Triaged] [14:21] <ttx> No clear agreed solution, +0 [14:22] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/194472 [14:22] <zul> why not redirect it to /dev/null? [14:22] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 194472 in sudo "Entering password in Terminal gives no visual feedback" [Unknown,Fix released] [14:22] <zul> foundations again [14:22] <ttx> highly contentious, -1 [14:22] <mathiaz> -1 [14:22] <zul> -1 [14:22] <Daviey> that is not a papercut :) [14:22] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/211915 [14:22] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 211915 in amavisd-new "Insecure dependency when using sql for Log Reporting" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:22] <ttx> doc bug, +0 [14:22] <zul> +0 [14:23] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/229732 [14:23] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 229732 in initramfs-tools "USB Keyboard drivers not loaded in initramfs" [Undecided,In progress] [14:23] <ttx> Not really server, +0 [14:23] <zul> -1 [14:23] <kirkland> ttx: definitely not really server [14:23] <mathiaz> -1 [14:23] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/263442 [14:23] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 263442 in mc "mcedit is not longer the default editor" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:23] <ttx> +1 [14:23] <zul> more foundationsy [14:24] <zul> +0 [14:24] <kirkland> ttx: yeah, +1, that could/should be fixed [14:24] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/289087 [14:24] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 289087 in linux "Missing linux-image-debug packages and metapackages since Intrepid" [High,Triaged] [14:24] <zul> -1 [14:24] <mathiaz> -1: kernel [14:24] <ttx> no easy solution : -1 [14:24] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/392377 [14:24] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 392377 in debootstrap "building vm image on text console causes gettys to stop respawning" [Undecided,New] [14:25] <ttx> not sure anything left todo, +0 [14:25] <mathiaz> ttx: where are the critiria for acceptance? [14:25] <ttx> in the spec [14:25] <soren> That should be fixed now. [14:25] <kirkland> -0 [14:25] <ttx> easy solution, server package, < 2h work [14:25] <zul> -1 based on soren's feedback [14:25] <soren> Oh, wait. [14:25] <soren> No, it's not. [14:25] <zul> +1 then ;) [14:25] <soren> It's fixed in debootstrap, not in vm-builder. [14:25] <ttx> soren: exactly [14:25] <soren> ubottu confused me by only mentioning debootstrap :) [14:25] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:25] <kirkland> okay, yeah +1 then [14:26] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/393888 [14:26] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 393888 in ruby1.9 "Ruby 1.9.0 curses Alt-key handling broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:26] <soren> I'm expecting to fix that this week. [14:26] <ttx> +1, if its really just a missing builddep [14:26] <ttx> -µ1 if it required bump, since papercuts needs to be bugfixes, not something affected by FF [14:26] <kirkland> ttx: yeah, +1 if only builddep [14:26] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/406466 [14:26] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 406466 in linux "2.6.31 - Can't see files in CIFS-mounted directories" [Medium,Confirmed] [14:26] <zul> -1 [14:26] <ttx> -1 / kernel issue, not even a bug methink [14:27] <mathiaz> -1 : kernel issue [14:27] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/428814 [14:27] <ttx> +1 [14:27] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 428814 in amavisd-new "Removal of the package does not remove the cron.daily script" [Low,Triaged] [14:27] <zul> +1 [14:27] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/458203 [14:27] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 458203 in eucalyptus "euca_conf is missing command-line completion" [Wishlist,Triaged] [14:27] <kirkland> +1 [14:27] <ttx> +1 [14:27] <zul> +0 [14:27] <kirkland> ttx: that's mostly fixed [14:27] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/460398 [14:27] <kirkland> ttx: in my last merge [14:27] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 460398 in vm-builder "/etc/timezone is not set correctly" [Medium,Triaged] [14:27] <ttx> +1 [14:27] <zul> +1 [14:27] <ttx> kirkland: cool :) [14:27] <soren> +1 [14:27] <kirkland> +1 [14:27] <smoser> command line completion is mostly fixed, kirkland ? [14:27] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/480460 [14:27] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 480460 in mcelog "mcelog: warning: record length longer than expected. Consider update." [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:28] <ttx> +1 [14:28] <zul> +1 [14:28] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/495505 [14:28] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 495505 in tomcat6 "server.number reports 6.0.0.0 not 6.0.X.0" [Medium,Triaged] [14:28] <ttx> +1 [14:28] <zul> +0 [14:29] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/496554 [14:29] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 496554 in installation-guide "Obsolete info in "Automatic Installation" section" [Undecided,New] [14:29] <ttx> +1 (?) [14:29] <ttx> taht sounds like a rather outdated doc [14:30] <ttx> if its completely rotten, might make sense to remove it rather than try to fix it [14:30] <mathiaz> +1 [14:30] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/508606 [14:30] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 508606 in command-not-found "Recommend tracepath for "traceroute" and "tracert"" [Undecided,New] [14:30] <ttx> +1 [14:30] <zul> +1 [14:30] <ttx> A few other ones have been added recently, we'll review them next week [14:31] <shattered> cool, my nominations went through :-) [14:31] <ttx> I'll update the status of the bugs accordingly [14:31] <ttx> shattered: yay ! [14:31] <shattered> not the usb keyboard one, though [14:31] <ttx> I propose that we discuss bugfixing goals next week, when we have a better idea of how many bugs we are looking at [14:32] <ttx> Gives a last chance for people to nominate their stuff :) [14:32] * nijaba propose not to discard doc bug, and make sure sommer knows about them [14:32] <ttx> he is assigned to it, iirc [14:33] <ttx> nijaba: agreed [14:33] <shattered> debian install document has the same bug [14:33] <shattered> if you're talking about 496554 [14:33] <ttx> I'll decline the -n, accept the +n, keep the +0 around [14:33] <ttx> moving on... [14:33] <ttx> unless there are any questions? [14:34] <ttx> [TOPIC] server-lucid-apport-hooks update (zul) [14:34] <MootBot> New Topic: server-lucid-apport-hooks update (zul) [14:34] <zul> all prior 1 are done except for openssh its pending a review with cjwatson [14:35] <cjwatson> zul: it is? I don't have mail about it [14:35] <cjwatson> nor do I see a branch on LP [14:35] <zul> cjwatson: hold on lemme pull it up [14:35] <ttx> zul: Did you get any community feedback on the prio2 ones ? [14:36] <zul> ttx: no :( [14:36] <cjwatson> sorry if I missed it on IRC, but IRC is kind of unreliable [14:36] <ttx> Hopefully you'll get some -- after the email you're going to send about it :) [14:36] <zul> cjwatson: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/ubuntu/lucid/openssh/openssh-apport-hook [14:36] <zul> ttx: heh [14:36] <cjwatson> ah, now I see it, I was looking for upstream branches, sorry [14:36] <cjwatson> I wonder why I didn't get a mail [14:36] <zul> cjwatson: no probs [14:37] <cjwatson> anyway, thanks, I'll review that now [14:37] <ttx> As a general reminder, apport hooks are easy, and a great way of contributing your first patches/branches to Ubuntu :) [14:37] <zul> and I dont bite [14:37] <ttx> especailly with a core-dev standing by to sponsor your work :)= [14:37] <RoAkSoAx> i might be able to help if the time allows me to do so :) [14:37] <ttx> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (soren) [14:37] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (soren) [14:38] <ttx> soren: howdy [14:39] <ttx> soren: if nothing else, when is new guy starting ? [14:39] <ttx> looks like we lost soren, we'll skip to... [14:39] <ttx> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) [14:39] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) [14:39] <ttx> jjohansen: howdy ? [14:39] <smoser> new guy starts: 15th (which is a US holiday) so 16th [14:40] <ttx> arh [14:40] <jjohansen> new EC2 kernel is checked in [14:40] <ttx> smoser: thx [14:40] <smoser> and booted in daily build output too! [14:40] <jjohansen> has the latest updates, and updated configs [14:40] <jjohansen> sweet [14:40] <ttx> smoser/jjohansen: so krd is complete now ? [14:40] <jjohansen> yes [14:40] <ttx> \o/ [14:40] <jjohansen> modulo any bugs [14:40] <jjohansen> also Bug #519448 [14:40] <smoser> ttx, definitely complete for ec2. and no ramdisks are published right now for uec. [14:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 519448 in linux "No XEN domU support in 32bit virtual flavour" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/519448 [14:40] <ttx> feature-complete, I should say [14:41] <jjohansen> has been fixed for next proposed karmic [14:41] <smoser> so we'll see for uec soon enough. [14:41] <jjohansen> and those changes are being rolled into lucid as well [14:41] <jjohansen> I think that is it [14:42] <ttx> jjohansen: also I blamed kernel for recent lucid random freezes, and it was plymouth fault. [14:42] <smoser> best bet is to always blame the kernel [14:42] * ttx beats himself with a big stick [14:42] <jjohansen> heh, well I blamed the kernel too, at first [14:42] <Daviey> plymouth on server shocker. [14:42] <ttx> soren: are you back ? [14:43] <soren> Sorry, yes. [14:43] <ttx> Any other question for John ? [14:43] <soren> I'm on my new laptop, and my IRC-notification thing seems to be malfunctioning. Sorry about that. [14:43] * soren catches up [14:43] <ttx> ok, back to the future: [14:43] <ttx> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (soren) [14:43] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (soren) [14:43] <soren> Ah. [14:43] <soren> Um.. [14:44] <soren> I don't actually know when he'll be starting. I /think/ it's next week. [14:44] <ttx> smoser answered that one [14:44] <ttx> Feb 16th [14:44] <soren> Other than that, I've handed over my automatic ISO testing stuff to the QA team. It'll be running in the DC soon. [14:44] <smoser> i'm 98% certain on that. that is what marjo told me. [14:44] <soren> smoser: That's probably true, then :) [14:44] <soren> he should know :) [14:44] <soren> I think that's all I have. [14:44] <zul> heh he/she is going to be very very busy [14:45] <ttx> [TOPIC] Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review (mathiaz) [14:45] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review (mathiaz) [14:45] * mathiaz pulls out the lists [14:45] <mathiaz> http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html [14:45] <MootBot> LINK received: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html [14:45] <mathiaz> anything SRU worth ^^? [14:46] <ttx> i think bug 503180 [14:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 503180 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus-cloud doesn't reply to requests (eucalyptus doesn't work after reboot or services restart issues due to upstart networking behavior)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503180 [14:46] <ttx> kirkland: you planned a SRU /if/ the fix inlucid can also be applied to karmic, right ? [14:46] <Daviey> bug 343870 [14:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 343870 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "php-cli segmentation fault with mysql extension" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343870 === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [14:46] <kirkland> ttx: it should be a 2-liner [14:46] <kirkland> ttx: i can prep the upload, and put it in a PPA [14:47] <kirkland> ttx: if i could get some people to test it [14:47] <kirkland> ttx: my rig is all Lucid [14:47] <kirkland> ttx: i won't have much cycles to work on Karmic [14:47] <ttx> Daviey: already nominated/accepted [14:47] <Daviey> oops [14:47] <ttx> kirkland: sounds like a plan. [14:47] <nijaba> kirkland: ping me when you want to test, I have a setup ready for it [14:47] <kirkland> ttx: action me to put an upload in a karmic ppa for testing [14:47] <ttx> kirkland: also TeTeT could help [14:48] <kirkland> ttx: as soon as 1 person verifies the ppa, i'll push to proposed [14:48] <ttx> [ACTION] kirkland to propose a karmic fix for bug 503180 in PPA [14:48] <MootBot> ACTION received: kirkland to propose a karmic fix for bug 503180 in PPA [14:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 503180 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus-cloud doesn't reply to requests (eucalyptus doesn't work after reboot or services restart issues due to upstart networking behavior)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503180 [14:48] <kirkland> ttx: or i can just push to propose, if you recommend [14:48] <zul> i just like to point out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/SRUTracker (its still a work in progress) [14:49] <ttx> we have no idea if the DB deadlock in karmic will be fully fixed by that... so I prefer PPA [14:49] <kirkland> ttx: ack [14:49] <ttx> mathiaz: that's all from me [14:49] <mathiaz> great [14:50] <mathiaz> anything else? [14:50] <ttx> zul: cool [14:50] <mathiaz> there is one bug nominated for jaunty|karmic: bug 364581 [14:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 364581 in mod-auth-mysql "Crash when logging in" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364581 [14:50] <ttx> +1 [14:51] <ttx> "Low" being slightly underestimated [14:51] <mathiaz> ok - accepting then [14:51] <zul> shouldnt bugs be undecided before triaging them? [14:51] <ttx> zul: no [14:52] <mathiaz> that's all for the SRU review [14:52] <ttx> [TOPIC] Open Discussion [14:52] <MootBot> New Topic: Open Discussion [14:52] <ttx> Note that we no longer do a canonical-server-rteam bug review, as it brought little value to the contents of the meeting [14:53] <Daviey> (\o/) [14:53] <ttx> any blocking bug should be brought up in Open Discussion [14:53] <ttx> (not just canonical's team ones) [14:53] <Daviey> ooo, tftpd.. [14:54] <Daviey> is that being resolved stgraber ? [14:54] <ttx> If we have some free time, lets see new papercuts nominations :) [14:54] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/508382 [14:54] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 508382 in bacula "bconsole does not connect to bacula-director" [Medium,Confirmed] [14:54] <kirkland> tftpd-hpa in lucid sucks [14:55] <Daviey> kirkland: it's always had some degree of suckness.. but now moreso. [14:55] <stgraber> I'm still not sure about what to do here but I'm very tempted to restore the old behavior [14:55] <kirkland> stgraber: or downgrade? [14:55] <ttx> I'd say +1 on the bconsole bug thing [14:56] <kirkland> stgraber: at the very least, please restore old behavior [14:56] <ttx> though LDFLAGS=" " is almost certainly not the right way to fix it [14:56] <stgraber> ideally I'd just revert to what we had in Karmic but it's not exactly easy to do if we want to be able to sync with Debian in the future [14:56] <stgraber> (as in, reverting to the old version completely) [14:57] <Daviey> stgraber: it wouldn't be a huge delta for us to carry, would it? [14:57] <Daviey> to diverge and carry. [14:57] <stgraber> so easiest is probably to tweak it so it works as before (inetd + /var/lib/tftpboot + no debconf) [14:57] <ttx> stgraber: I'd revert to old behavior... and try to convince the debian maintainer of the value of the old system [14:57] <stgraber> Daviey: I don't think so no [14:57] <ttx> be it only for upgrade scenarios [14:57] <ttx> I suppose debian server users also upgrade [14:58] <ttx> stgraber: reverting to old version won't help in the long run [14:58] <kirkland> ttx: let's solve this in #ubuntu-server [14:58] <ttx> sure [14:59] <ttx> [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time [14:59] <MootBot> New Topic: Agree on next meeting date and time [14:59] <ttx> That will be again same place same time, for at least one more week [14:59] <kirkland> ttx: one hour later, please [14:59] <ttx> kirkland: it's not in my power to change that [14:59] <kirkland> ttx: should we just drop that last TOPIC item, then? [14:59] * Daviey checks the TOPIC [15:00] <kirkland> ttx: we always ask, and I always say "one hour later please" :-) [15:00] <ttx> kirkland: but... if you convince jos /and/ send an email after having convinced him, I'm ok with one hour later [15:00] <kirkland> ttx: okay [15:00] <Daviey> any meeting date and time you chose, providing it is Wednesday at 2:00PM UTC -- Hnery Ford. [15:00] * mathiaz pushes for a different day [15:00] <ttx> mathiaz: that's an even more ambitious move ! [15:00] <jiboumans> kirkland: probably in may, fyi [15:00] * jiboumans back to meeting & [15:00] <ttx> even more not in my little sphere of power [15:01] <ttx> #endmeeting [15:01] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 09:01. [15:01] <soren> Wow, you have a sphere of power? That sounds COOL! [15:01] <ttx> soren: I used to have a sphere of influence, but it dodn't work that well [15:02] <soren> What's the exchange rate from Spheres of Influence to Spheres of Power these days? === RoAk is now known as RoAkSoAx [15:04] <ttx> soren: it's not so good. But back when I traded mine, it was good. I got a small Sphere of Power for my medium-sized speher of Influence [15:05] <kirkland> ttx: soren: and how does a Sphere of Power relate to a Ring of Power? [15:05] <kirkland> maybe that was what that giant marble was that Sauraman had... [15:06] <ttx> A Ring of Power is mostly about your friends network. A Sphere of Power is centered around yourself. [15:06] <soren> kirkland: I'm not sure. I don't even know how it compares to my Spear of DOOM! [15:06] <persia> soren: How does that differ from the well advertised long pointy stick? [15:06] <ttx> Spear of Doom ? like... being an admin of ubuntu-core-dev ? [15:07] <fader_> I haven't even managed to get a Web of Trust... I'm so far behind. :( [15:07] <ttx> Sphere of Power only allows you to schedule UDS sessions, so it kinda sucks [15:07] <soren> persia: Well, it's a spear, isn't it? So it's pointy by definition. The tip might break of the pointy stick, and then it'd just be a stick. [15:08] * ttx remembers the time of web rings [15:10] <persia> Ah, so the spear of DOOM! is cladded. That makes sense.
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