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THIS IS A ROUGH DRAFT BY MAKO FROM JUNE 2006. == Initial Notes ==
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It needs formatting still.

This a draft. Everything here is completely open for discussion and
reevaluation. It is, as of the time of writing, the work of only two
people and will only represent those views until you start on it.
Additionally, this document can updated with time when it stops working.
For example, if a 3-5 person board becomes problematic, we can change it.
Changes to this can be made by agreement of both the FC and the CC.
This a draft. Everything here is completely open for discussion and reevaluation. It is, as of the time of writing, the work of only two people and will only represent those views until you start on it. Additionally, this document can updated with time when it stops working. For example, if a 3-5 person board becomes problematic, we can change it. Changes to this can be made by agreement of both the FC and the CC.
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  This document is *not* meant as an attack on the current forums staff
 
or administrators.
  This document is ''not'' meant as an attack on the current forums staff or administrators.
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  The forums are one of the largest and smoothest running parts of the Ubuntu
 
community. This document aims to help create a more documented, democratic,
 
accessible governance structure for the forums and to integrate it into the
 
rest of the Ubuntu community.
     The best way to solve a problem is to prevent it from ever happening. At a
  moment when the forums are running more smoothly than ever, it seems an
  ideal moment to help pave the road for a long and smooth future.
 ''The forums are one of the largest and smoothest running parts of the Ubuntu community. This document aims to help create a more documented, democratic, accessible governance structure for the forums and to integrate it into the rest of the Ubuntu community.''
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Forums Community Governance Codification
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 ''The best way to solve a problem is to prevent it from ever happening. At a moment when the forums are running more smoothly than ever, it seems an ideal moment to help pave the road for a long and smooth future.''
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The forums represent many people's first meeting with Ubuntu and is an
important resource for support and social interactions and have become
one of the most important subprojects within Ubuntu. They are the
single largest GNU/Linux support forums and one of the most important
venues for community support and interaction. Started independently
by Ryan Troy two years ago, their rapid success was recognized when
they were desiccated as the Official Ubuntu Forums.
== Forums Community Governance Codification ==
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In a variety of ways and for a variety of reasons, the forums have not
been given the respect or recognition that they deserve. Their
governance systems remains both separate and isolated from the Ubuntu
decision-making system. While the forums have built successful and
effective internal governance systems, including their resolution
center, their relationship to the rest of the Ubuntu is less
clear. The forums currently have no CC-delegated governance council
and no official team delegation.
The forums represent many people's first meeting with Ubuntu and is an important resource for support and social interactions and have become one of the most important subprojects within Ubuntu. They are the single largest GNU/Linux support forums and one of the most important venues for community support and interaction. Started independently by Ryan Troy two years ago, their rapid success was officially recognized when they were designated as the Official Ubuntu Forums.
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The Official Ubuntu Forums have not been given an opportunity to live
up to their name. This specification, which ultimately aims to be
approved by both the current forum staff and the Ubuntu
Community Council, tries to lay out a plan for bringing the Ubuntu
forums into the fold.
In a variety of ways and for a variety of reasons, the forums have not been given the recognition that they deserve. Their governance systems remain both separate and isolated from the Ubuntu decision-making systems. While the forums have built successful and effective internal governance systems, including their resolution center, their relationship to the rest of the Ubuntu is less clear. The forums currently have no CC-delegated governance council and no official team delegation.

In short, the
Official Ubuntu Forums have not been given an opportunity to live up to their name. This specification, which ultimately aims to be approved by both the current forum staff and the Ubuntu Community Council, tries to lay out a plan for bringing the Ubuntu forums into the fold.
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* Increase recognition of contributions in the forums with membership
 
which is ultimately used to approve community council members.
 * Increase recognition of contributions in the forums with membership which is ultimately used to approve community council members.
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* Provide a clear delegation and codifications of the existing
 
leadership in the forums and plan for handling these decisions in
 
the future.
 * Provide a clear delegation and codifications of the existing leadership in the forums and plan for handling these decisions in the future.
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* Describe a clearly described democratic and meritocratic process for
leadership and staff positions in the forums.
 * Describe clear democratic and meritocratic processes for the appointment of leadership and staff positions in the forums.
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* Remove several "single points of failure." (this is not an attack)  * Remove several "single points of failure". (this is not an attack on the people who currently fill those roles, but a recognition that single points of failure are problematic)
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* Describe methods for both preventing and resolving any future
 
inter-administrator or inter-staff conflicts within the forums.
 * Describe methods for both preventing and resolving any future inter-administrator or inter-staff conflicts within the forums.
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* Recognize the hard work of the forums staff through recognition as
 
an integral and *integrated* part of the forums community.
 * Recognize the hard work of the forums staff through recognition as an integral and *integrated* part of the forums community.
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 * Provide a straightforward process for top forums contributors to be recognized as full members in Ubuntu, with the right to vote on resolutions posed by the Community Council.
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Changes to Current Ubuntu Policy
==================================
 * Provide for a reporting process so that news, ideas and work done in the project by Forums users will be communicated to the broader community and appropriately recognized.
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The proposal includes both a policy and the codification of a few
things in Ubuntu policy. These should be discussed with the CC and
the forum staff. After it is improved by this process we should probably
add this to the `community governance page`__ in the Ubuntu website.
== Changes to Current Ubuntu Policy ==
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__ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/governance The proposal includes both new policy and the codification of a few existing Ubuntu policies. These should be discussed with the CC and the forum staff. After it has been approved by the CC we will add it to the community governance page (http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/governance) in the Ubuntu website.
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  == Team Councils == Note that the document is structured to describe NOT JUST the Forums, but instead all the areas of the project which are large and independent enough to have their own dedicated leadership structures.
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  Whereas small teams are governed by consensus and frequently
  directed by a team leader appointed by the Community Council,
  several projects within Ubuntu (e.g., Kubuntu, Edubuntu, the Ubuntu
  Forums) are large and established enough that they have their own
  internal governance structures. These most important of these
  structures is the *Team Council*.
== Team Councils ==
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  The members of team councils are appointed by the community council
  under consideration of input from the existing team council and
  leaders and participants of the subproject or team. In all cases,
  the CC aims to choose leaders who are well known, experienced, and
  respected within team and in the larger community. The input of the
  current team leadership and members play the single most important
  role in appointing team council members.
Whereas small teams are governed by consensus and frequently directed by a team leader appointed by the Community Council, several projects within Ubuntu (e.g., Kubuntu, Edubuntu, the Ubuntu Forums) are large and established enough that they have their own internal governance structures. These most important of these structures is the ''Team Council''.
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  Councils play different roles in different subprojects but they act
  as an extension of and serve a role similar to the CC within their
  subproject. They create and review rules and guidelines and resolve
  conflicts or enforce rules where necessary. In some situations,
  consideration of membership applications is delegated to team councils
  by the community council. Like all teams in
  Ubuntu, their technical and non-technical decisions are subject to
  review or appeal to the Ubuntu Technical Board and Community Council
  respectively. Conflicts *within* team councils are resolved by the
  Community Council.
The members of team councils are appointed by the community council under consideration of input from the existing team council and leaders and participants of the subproject or team. In all cases, the CC aims to choose leaders who are well known, experienced, and respected within team and in the larger community. The input of the current team leadership and members play the single most important role in appointing team council members.
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This would attempt to describe both what we're planning on doing here
and would apply to the current Kubuntu and Edubuntu councils.
Councils play different roles in different sub-projects but they act as an extension of and serve a role similar to the CC within their subproject. They create and review rules and guidelines and resolve conflicts or enforce rules where necessary. In some situations, consideration of membership applications is delegated to team councils by the community council. Like all teams in Ubuntu, their technical and non-technical decisions are subject to review or appeal to the Ubuntu Technical Board and Community Council respectively. Conflicts ''within'' team councils are resolved by the Community Council.
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New Forums Governance Policy
==============================
This would attempt to describe both what we're planning on doing here and would apply to the current Kubuntu and Edubuntu councils.
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The following new policy will be implemented after drafting and
approval by the current forums administrators an the Ubuntu community
council.
== New Forums Governance Policy ==
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It should also be added to `the forums guidelines page`__. The following new policy will be implemented after drafting and approval by the current forums administrators an the Ubuntu community council.
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__ http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php?page=policy It should also be added to the forums guidelines page (http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php?page=policy).
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Forums Council
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== Forums Council ==
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The Ubuntu Community Council will create a new Forums Council (FC)
(similar in effect to the Kubuntu and Edubuntu councils). The FC will
consist of and take on the roles of the administrators.
The forums council is the group that is ultimately responsible for the governing the forums and interfacing between the forums and the rest of the Ubuntu community and governce systems. It will:
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This board would:  * Consist of between 3-7 members. Membership should be public and published. If council membership falls below 3 members, the board will be considered inquorate and new appointments will be made immediately. The number of members at any given point will be determined by the forums council.
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* Consist of between 3-5 members. Membership should be public and
  published. FC members should be accessible by and responsive to the
  forums community.
 * Decisions will be made by a majority of voting forums council members when at least three and more than half of the total members have voted.
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* Hold meetings regularly and visibly. Meetings can either be in IRC in the
  "ubuntu-meeting" channel or in a special, publicly visible
  area or subarea on the forums. (Of course, "meeting" is
  perhaps a bad term in this case. Input/help describing this would be
  nice.) This can be in addition to existing private staff-only forums.
 * FC members should be accessible by and responsive to the forums community (i.e., through a dedicated forum).
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* Be appointed by the Ubuntu Community Council. Nominations would be
  public but would be considered and evaluated by the CC based on a
  number of criteria. In order of importance, this criteria would
  include:
 * Hold "meetings" regularly and visibly. Meetings can either be in IRC in the "ubuntu-meeting" channel or in a special, publicly visible area or sub-forum.
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  - Opinions and testimonials (positive and negative) of current
    members of the forums council;
 * Be appointed by the Ubuntu Community Council in consultation with the Forums Council, forums staff, and active contributors to the forums. Nominations would be open and public and would be considered and evaluated by the CC. Each candidate should prepare a wiki page summarizing their nomination and their contributions and including and referencing testimonials (e.g., something similar to what is prepared for Ubuntu membership). The CC commits to evaluating all nominations on the following criteria, listed in order of importance:

  - The nominees active status as an Ubuntu member ''(essential)''.
  
  - The nominees support from ''at least'' one active forum staff member (essential).

  - Opinions and testimonials (positive and negative) from current members of the forums council;
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  - Opinions and testimonials from Ubuntu Members, Ubunteros, and
   
other active participants in the Ubuntu forums.
  - Opinions and testimonials from Ubuntu Members, Ubunteros, and other active participants in the forums;
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  - Clear evidence of activity within the forums (quality, quantity
   
and duration);
  - Clear evidence of activity within the forums (quality, quantity and duration);
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* Serve terms of three (3) years. FC members could serve multiple or
 
repeated terms. Weight will be given to proved contributors and
 
reelection of consistently active members should be both easy and
 
common.
 * Serve terms of two (2) years. FC members could serve multiple or repeated terms. Weight will be given to proved contributors and reelection of consistently active members should be both easy and common.
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* Be formed, initially, of the current forums administrators (i.e.,
 
Ryan Troy, Kassetra, John Dong, and Mike Braniff). We might want to
  add another admin next year or appoint/reappoint two members next
  year.
 * Be formed, initially, of the current forums administrators (i.e., Ryan Troy, John Dong, and Mike Braniff).
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The FC would have a number of rights and responsibilities. These
include:
The FC would have a number of rights and responsibilities. These include:
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* First and foremost, the current rights responsibilities of the
  Ubuntu forums administrators. :)
 * Appointing or recalling administrators moderators and forums staff. The criteria for these appointments are ultimately up to the FC.
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* Appointing new moderators and forums staff. While the criteria for
  these appointments are ultimately up to the FC, these appointments
  should take into account similar criteria to the CC in considering
  new FC members.
 * Resolving disputes between forums staff and moderators as per the existing dispute resolution system and forums guidelines.
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* Resolving disputes between forums staff and moderators as per the
  existing dispute resolution system and forums guidelines.
 * With advice, feedback, and help from the forums staff, maintaining and enforcing the Forums Guidelines and associated infrastructure (e.g., the resolution center).
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* With advice, feedback, and help from the forums staff, maintaining
  and enforcing the Forums Guidelines and associated infrastructure
  (e.g., the resolution center).
 * Regularly and when possible, sending a representative to CC members to weigh in on issues of membership and to update the council on the FC business.
  
 * With time and once things are running smoothly, the CC will delegate membership decisions to the council so that the FC can appoint new Ubuntu members without direct oversight or permission from the CC.
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* Regularly and when possible, sending a representative to CC members
  to weigh in on issues of membership and to update the council on the
  FC business.
  
* With time and once things are running smoothly, the CC will delegate
  membership decisions to the council so that the FC can appoint new
  Ubuntu members without direct oversight or permission from the CC.
== Forums Staff and Ubuntu Membership ==
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Forums Staff
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Forums staff will be appointed by the forums council. Forums staff are expected to uphold and set an example that is consistent with the Code of Conduct.
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Forums staff will be appointed by the forums council. They have terms
of one year and can be reappointed to additional by the FC when their
terms expire.
Forums staff and participants have the option to become Ubuntu members. Current staff can apply for membership at an Ubuntu CC meeting. Their contributions as staff members and contributors on the forums should provide more than sufficient evidence of a sustained and significant contribution to the Ubuntu community.
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Forums staff should have the options to become Ubuntu members.
Current staff can apply for
membership at an Ubuntu CC meeting. Their contributions as staff
members and contributors on the forums should provide more than
sufficient evidence of a sustained and significant contribution to
the Ubuntu community.
== Dispute Resolution ==

There need to be no significant changes to the way that inter-user or staff-user disputes are handled in the forums. The FC will continue to maintain the forums guidelines and the resolution center.

There should be a method whereby any disagreements or conflicts *between* moderators can request a hearing by the FC.

In extreme situations only, users and moderators who feel that they have not been given a fair hearing by the FC can appeal a decision to the CC. The CC considers the FC to be a greater authority on forums matters and in the majority of these cases, the CC will likely refer these issues back to the FC.

Any deadlock within the FC will can be referred to the community council for resolution.

All forums issues, including those that involve the CC, should occur not in IRC, but in a special, public forum in the Ubuntu Forums.

== Commentary on Changes ==

 * We've expanded the number of council members from a maximum of five to seven. We've made the number of members wholly up to the FC itself as long as it over three. FC members no longer need to be administrators.
 
 * There are no term limits for staff members or administrators.
 
 * There are no explicit term limits for FC members. Term lenghts were adjusted to two years from three.
 
 * The FC council will be able to delegate membership. As a result, it's essential that the FC members be Ubuntu members. Initial FC members who are not Ubuntu members should seek membership at the next CC meeting.
 
 * Forums staff or administrators need not be Ubuntu members. If they choose to pursue membership,they will be able to become Ubuntu Members easily.
 
 * The selection model has been rewritten to (a) require Ubuntu membership (b) explicitly committ the CC to following the criteria listed below and (c) require a nomination from at least one current staff member.
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Dispute Resolution
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== Response ==
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There need to be no significant changes to the way that inter-user or
staff-user disputes are handled in the forums. The FC will continue to
maintain the forums guidelines and the resolution center.
The group meeting at UDS-MTV thank all of the contributors who have taken time to leave comments on the wiki page. Changes were made above that tried to reply to these changes. Additionally, this group has written the following comments to try and respond to remaining concerns that are not directly addressed in the text of the changes above.
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There should be a method whereby any disagreements or conflicts
*between* moderators can request a hearing by the FC.
A number of people left comments about control over the forums. The control in the current proposal will be almost entirely unchanged. The dispute resolution process described here is identical to the procedure followed today. Similarly, administrators and staff will be appointed in a method identical to the way things work now. This document pertains only to the relationship between CUbuntu and the forums and will not effect internal forums procedures. As a the document says in the introduction, the current forums are not broken and this is an attempt to prevent problems that have occured in the past and to ensure that the forums are fully empowered like other teams councils.
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In and only in *extreme* situations, users and moderators who feel
that they have not been given a fair hearing by the FC can appeal a
decision to the CC. The CC considers the FC to be a greater authority
on forums matters and in the *vast* majority of these cases, the CC
will refer these issues back to the FC.

Any deadlock within the FC will can be referred to the community
council for resolution.

All forums issues, including those that involve the CC, should occur
not in IRC, but in a special forums in the Ubuntu Forums.
Several people have raised concerns about the CC's ability to meaningfully appoint forum council members when the CC members are not particularly involved in the day-to-day actions of the forums. It should be pointd out that the CC is not involved in the day-to-day actions of many other consuils.

Initial Notes

This a draft. Everything here is completely open for discussion and reevaluation. It is, as of the time of writing, the work of only two people and will only represent those views until you start on it. Additionally, this document can updated with time when it stops working. For example, if a 3-5 person board becomes problematic, we can change it. Changes to this can be made by agreement of both the FC and the CC.

Finally, it should go without saying but may still benefit from being said:

  • This document is not meant as an attack on the current forums staff or administrators.

  • The forums are one of the largest and smoothest running parts of the Ubuntu community. This document aims to help create a more documented, democratic, accessible governance structure for the forums and to integrate it into the rest of the Ubuntu community.

    The best way to solve a problem is to prevent it from ever happening. At a moment when the forums are running more smoothly than ever, it seems an ideal moment to help pave the road for a long and smooth future.

Forums Community Governance Codification

The forums represent many people's first meeting with Ubuntu and is an important resource for support and social interactions and have become one of the most important subprojects within Ubuntu. They are the single largest GNU/Linux support forums and one of the most important venues for community support and interaction. Started independently by Ryan Troy two years ago, their rapid success was officially recognized when they were designated as the Official Ubuntu Forums.

In a variety of ways and for a variety of reasons, the forums have not been given the recognition that they deserve. Their governance systems remain both separate and isolated from the Ubuntu decision-making systems. While the forums have built successful and effective internal governance systems, including their resolution center, their relationship to the rest of the Ubuntu is less clear. The forums currently have no CC-delegated governance council and no official team delegation.

In short, the Official Ubuntu Forums have not been given an opportunity to live up to their name. This specification, which ultimately aims to be approved by both the current forum staff and the Ubuntu Community Council, tries to lay out a plan for bringing the Ubuntu forums into the fold.

A closer relationship between Ubuntu and the forums will:

  • Increase recognition of contributions in the forums with membership which is ultimately used to approve community council members.
  • Provide a clear delegation and codifications of the existing leadership in the forums and plan for handling these decisions in the future.
  • Describe clear democratic and meritocratic processes for the appointment of leadership and staff positions in the forums.
  • Remove several "single points of failure". (this is not an attack on the people who currently fill those roles, but a recognition that single points of failure are problematic)
  • Describe methods for both preventing and resolving any future inter-administrator or inter-staff conflicts within the forums.
  • Recognize the hard work of the forums staff through recognition as an integral and *integrated* part of the forums community.
  • Provide a straightforward process for top forums contributors to be recognized as full members in Ubuntu, with the right to vote on resolutions posed by the Community Council.
  • Provide for a reporting process so that news, ideas and work done in the project by Forums users will be communicated to the broader community and appropriately recognized.

Changes to Current Ubuntu Policy

The proposal includes both new policy and the codification of a few existing Ubuntu policies. These should be discussed with the CC and the forum staff. After it has been approved by the CC we will add it to the community governance page (http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/governance) in the Ubuntu website.

Note that the document is structured to describe NOT JUST the Forums, but instead all the areas of the project which are large and independent enough to have their own dedicated leadership structures.

Team Councils

Whereas small teams are governed by consensus and frequently directed by a team leader appointed by the Community Council, several projects within Ubuntu (e.g., Kubuntu, Edubuntu, the Ubuntu Forums) are large and established enough that they have their own internal governance structures. These most important of these structures is the Team Council.

The members of team councils are appointed by the community council under consideration of input from the existing team council and leaders and participants of the subproject or team. In all cases, the CC aims to choose leaders who are well known, experienced, and respected within team and in the larger community. The input of the current team leadership and members play the single most important role in appointing team council members.

Councils play different roles in different sub-projects but they act as an extension of and serve a role similar to the CC within their subproject. They create and review rules and guidelines and resolve conflicts or enforce rules where necessary. In some situations, consideration of membership applications is delegated to team councils by the community council. Like all teams in Ubuntu, their technical and non-technical decisions are subject to review or appeal to the Ubuntu Technical Board and Community Council respectively. Conflicts within team councils are resolved by the Community Council.

This would attempt to describe both what we're planning on doing here and would apply to the current Kubuntu and Edubuntu councils.

New Forums Governance Policy

The following new policy will be implemented after drafting and approval by the current forums administrators an the Ubuntu community council.

It should also be added to the forums guidelines page (http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php?page=policy).

Forums Council

The forums council is the group that is ultimately responsible for the governing the forums and interfacing between the forums and the rest of the Ubuntu community and governce systems. It will:

  • Consist of between 3-7 members. Membership should be public and published. If council membership falls below 3 members, the board will be considered inquorate and new appointments will be made immediately. The number of members at any given point will be determined by the forums council.
  • Decisions will be made by a majority of voting forums council members when at least three and more than half of the total members have voted.
  • FC members should be accessible by and responsive to the forums community (i.e., through a dedicated forum).
  • Hold "meetings" regularly and visibly. Meetings can either be in IRC in the "ubuntu-meeting" channel or in a special, publicly visible area or sub-forum.
  • Be appointed by the Ubuntu Community Council in consultation with the Forums Council, forums staff, and active contributors to the forums. Nominations would be open and public and would be considered and evaluated by the CC. Each candidate should prepare a wiki page summarizing their nomination and their contributions and including and referencing testimonials (e.g., something similar to what is prepared for Ubuntu membership). The CC commits to evaluating all nominations on the following criteria, listed in order of importance:
    • - The nominees active status as an Ubuntu member (essential).

      - The nominees support from at least one active forum staff member (essential). - Opinions and testimonials (positive and negative) from current members of the forums council; - Opinions and testimonials from current forums staff; - Opinions and testimonials from Ubuntu Members, Ubunteros, and other active participants in the forums; - Clear evidence of activity within the forums (quality, quantity and duration);

  • Serve terms of two (2) years. FC members could serve multiple or repeated terms. Weight will be given to proved contributors and reelection of consistently active members should be both easy and common.
  • Be formed, initially, of the current forums administrators (i.e., Ryan Troy, John Dong, and Mike Braniff).

The FC would have a number of rights and responsibilities. These include:

  • Appointing or recalling administrators moderators and forums staff. The criteria for these appointments are ultimately up to the FC.
  • Resolving disputes between forums staff and moderators as per the existing dispute resolution system and forums guidelines.
  • With advice, feedback, and help from the forums staff, maintaining and enforcing the Forums Guidelines and associated infrastructure (e.g., the resolution center).
  • Regularly and when possible, sending a representative to CC members to weigh in on issues of membership and to update the council on the FC business.
  • With time and once things are running smoothly, the CC will delegate membership decisions to the council so that the FC can appoint new Ubuntu members without direct oversight or permission from the CC.

Forums Staff and Ubuntu Membership

Forums staff will be appointed by the forums council. Forums staff are expected to uphold and set an example that is consistent with the Code of Conduct.

Forums staff and participants have the option to become Ubuntu members. Current staff can apply for membership at an Ubuntu CC meeting. Their contributions as staff members and contributors on the forums should provide more than sufficient evidence of a sustained and significant contribution to the Ubuntu community.

Dispute Resolution

There need to be no significant changes to the way that inter-user or staff-user disputes are handled in the forums. The FC will continue to maintain the forums guidelines and the resolution center.

There should be a method whereby any disagreements or conflicts *between* moderators can request a hearing by the FC.

In extreme situations only, users and moderators who feel that they have not been given a fair hearing by the FC can appeal a decision to the CC. The CC considers the FC to be a greater authority on forums matters and in the majority of these cases, the CC will likely refer these issues back to the FC.

Any deadlock within the FC will can be referred to the community council for resolution.

All forums issues, including those that involve the CC, should occur not in IRC, but in a special, public forum in the Ubuntu Forums.

Commentary on Changes

  • We've expanded the number of council members from a maximum of five to seven. We've made the number of members wholly up to the FC itself as long as it over three. FC members no longer need to be administrators.
  • There are no term limits for staff members or administrators.
  • There are no explicit term limits for FC members. Term lenghts were adjusted to two years from three.
  • The FC council will be able to delegate membership. As a result, it's essential that the FC members be Ubuntu members. Initial FC members who are not Ubuntu members should seek membership at the next CC meeting.
  • Forums staff or administrators need not be Ubuntu members. If they choose to pursue membership,they will be able to become Ubuntu Members easily.
  • The selection model has been rewritten to (a) require Ubuntu membership (b) explicitly committ the CC to following the criteria listed below and (c) require a nomination from at least one current staff member.

Response

The group meeting at UDS-MTV thank all of the contributors who have taken time to leave comments on the wiki page. Changes were made above that tried to reply to these changes. Additionally, this group has written the following comments to try and respond to remaining concerns that are not directly addressed in the text of the changes above.

A number of people left comments about control over the forums. The control in the current proposal will be almost entirely unchanged. The dispute resolution process described here is identical to the procedure followed today. Similarly, administrators and staff will be appointed in a method identical to the way things work now. This document pertains only to the relationship between CUbuntu and the forums and will not effect internal forums procedures. As a the document says in the introduction, the current forums are not broken and this is an attempt to prevent problems that have occured in the past and to ensure that the forums are fully empowered like other teams councils.

Several people have raised concerns about the CC's ability to meaningfully appoint forum council members when the CC members are not particularly involved in the day-to-day actions of the forums. It should be pointd out that the CC is not involved in the day-to-day actions of many other consuils.

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