{{{ Feb 17 10:50:27 * Ubugtu has changed the topic to: Current meeting: Xubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 21 Feb 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 21 Feb 16:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 22 Feb 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Feb 17:00 UTC: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 25 Feb 17:00 UTC: LoCo Team Feb 17 10:54:36 * j_ack (n=rudi@p508DBBF8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:03:47 * afflux has quit ("Ex-Chat") Feb 17 11:04:11 so Feb 17 11:06:13 * mako_ (n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:10:10 highvoltage, ? Feb 17 11:11:29 cbx33: meant to ping somerville32, my connection just went a bit dodgy there for a while Feb 17 11:11:38 hehe Feb 17 11:11:44 Oh right Feb 17 11:11:46 Meeting time :) Feb 17 11:11:47 * mako__ (n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:13:41 * duglas (n=douglas@cpe-24-58-207-250.twcny.res.rr.com) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:14:16 I've been away in the hospital for the last little while so I'm a bit disorientated. Feb 17 11:14:25 Luckily they let me come home for a weekend :) Feb 17 11:14:34 * issocabin (i=issocabi@219.148.226.141) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:14:37 nice Feb 17 11:14:49 how's janimo doing? been a while since I heard from him Feb 17 11:15:01 I heard RL is getting to him Feb 17 11:15:08 ie. consuming more and more time Feb 17 11:15:17 I've never seen him on IRC Feb 17 11:15:19 ah Feb 17 11:15:27 Just correspondence via e-mail Feb 17 11:15:41 yeah, email seems the best way to stay in touch Feb 17 11:16:03 somerville32: did you get any other pongbacks for the xubuntu meeting? Feb 17 11:16:03 * somerville32 nods. Feb 17 11:16:18 Errmm... not yet Feb 17 11:16:19 lol Feb 17 11:16:41 :) Feb 17 11:16:43 This time has never really been too good Feb 17 11:16:48 We might need to change it Feb 17 11:17:00 The wednesday meetings tend to get more people Feb 17 11:17:03 * LordGamer (n=LordGame@74.12.56.244) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:17:14 seems so, yes Feb 17 11:17:27 for some people weekends seem to be better sometimes Feb 17 11:17:31 perhaps alternate it? Feb 17 11:17:36 We do, Wedo Feb 17 11:17:42 Wednesday and Saturday Feb 17 11:18:11 d'oh! Feb 17 11:18:20 * highvoltage has been out of touch with xubuntu meetings Feb 17 11:18:38 Hopefully a few more people show up because there is a concrete agenda for today Feb 17 11:18:39 * hyper_ch (n=hyper@217-162-77-97.dclient.hispeed.ch) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:18:50 I would probably be away now if I didn't get a burn on my arm from my motorbike today Feb 17 11:19:00 but I'll make a point of being here more often for the meetings Feb 17 11:19:08 Awesome :) Feb 17 11:19:55 how many people are involved in xubuntu...if you don't mind my asking Feb 17 11:20:10 Tough question Feb 17 11:20:47 4-6 different people, I'd say Feb 17 11:20:48 as far as I understand, janimo packages most of the core packages, and then there's a cloud of xubuntu around that Feb 17 11:21:04 * lmanul has quit ("Ex-Chat") Feb 17 11:21:13 the xfce packages from xubuntu are going on the second edubuntu cd as well Feb 17 11:21:17 Janimo, Gpocentrek, Crimsun, and myself too most of the packaging stuff Feb 17 11:21:22 s/too/do Feb 17 11:21:22 that might help xubuntu in the long run Feb 17 11:21:25 :D Feb 17 11:21:31 Thats pretty cool Feb 17 11:22:02 How is Edubuntu doing with testing? Feb 17 11:22:04 highvoltage, AWESOME Feb 17 11:22:04 * kalikiana (n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-112-232.netcologne.de) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:22:07 Thats someone we're struggling with Feb 17 11:22:08 * mako has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Feb 17 11:22:10 may I ask something? Feb 17 11:22:14 testing it always hard Feb 17 11:22:28 hyper_ch, Sure :) Feb 17 11:23:00 what I wonder is the following: When I install Ubuntu (for example) and then do sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop --> why isn't it the same as when I install xubuntu directly? Feb 17 11:23:25 somerville32: cbx33 is probably edubuntu's most prominent tester, probably followed by myself Feb 17 11:23:31 somerville32: well, except from ogra, that is Feb 17 11:23:35 indeed Feb 17 11:23:44 I test, but I suppose I dev more and more lately Feb 17 11:23:54 somerville32: some schools also switch to the next version before release, giving good feedback Feb 17 11:23:54 hyper_ch, what is different exactly? Feb 17 11:24:30 kalikiana: can't tell... it just doesn't look the same and hasn't the same appz installed as by a default installation of xubuntu Feb 17 11:24:40 same goes if I install xubuntu and then add kubuntu-desktop Feb 17 11:24:41 and so on Feb 17 11:25:58 somerville32: I was getting iinvolved with doing some xubuntu testing..i contacted jani about it..but now the ppc plus has been pulled it changes things :( Feb 17 11:26:09 is it possibly fewer apps as in 'required' but without some optional things? i didn't actually notice that. Feb 17 11:26:21 s/plus/plug/ ^^ Feb 17 11:26:42 * somerville32 nods. Feb 17 11:26:54 * finalbeta has quit ("An inconvenient truth www.climatecrisis.net") Feb 17 11:27:24 Alrighty Feb 17 11:27:30 * mako (n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:27:31 Today we need to discuss artwork, documentation, and testing Feb 17 11:27:50 I'd first like to focus on how we can improve testing to ensure that we get pre-releases out on time. Feb 17 11:28:04 * mako_ has quit (Connection timed out) Feb 17 11:28:24 I get the impression that people do test but maybe don't report it? Feb 17 11:28:43 Hey, I am here Feb 17 11:29:08 * baslin6 (n=sporter@adsl-66-139-164-25.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:30:08 Iam working on some icons Feb 17 11:30:13 Hi Jmak Feb 17 11:30:19 We're just discussing testing Feb 17 11:30:41 I am testing feisty so far everything works great Feb 17 11:30:57 I think to resolve the issue with testing, we simply need to promote it more and make sure we're promoting the correct way of reporting so that the pre-releases get released automatically Feb 17 11:31:02 * cbx33 can proabably throw in a quick test of xubuntu feisty later in the week if that'll help Feb 17 11:31:10 cbx33, It would be a big help :) Feb 17 11:31:10 somerville32: for myself...reports failures is fine...reporting passes is tedious..hence coverage is not recorded Feb 17 11:31:16 ok Feb 17 11:31:17 somerville32: I test Xubuntu packages regularly for work purposes Feb 17 11:31:20 I'll set it downloading now Feb 17 11:31:26 somerville32: but I don't report back on Xubuntu stuff Feb 17 11:31:41 somerville32: so I'll make a point of giving more feedback Feb 17 11:31:46 install or desktop? Feb 17 11:31:49 preference? Feb 17 11:32:23 * j1mc (n=j1m@adsl-75-21-84-63.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:32:33 highvoltage, Maybe there are ways to facilitate communication with Edubuntu and Xubuntu with regarding to testing to prevent duplications of efforts. Feb 17 11:33:20 somerville32: I think a webform for test coverage would be good Feb 17 11:33:35 somerville32: absolutely Feb 17 11:33:55 * |TP|Grunt has quit ("Leaving") Feb 17 11:35:26 * mako__ has quit (Connection timed out) Feb 17 11:35:57 How do people find using launchpad? Feb 17 11:36:06 Isn't that what we're suppose to be using these days? Feb 17 11:36:18 most complaints are about the UI and the licensing Feb 17 11:36:27 the UI is getting an overhaul, though Feb 17 11:36:47 some people have posted screenshots of the new lp interface Feb 17 11:37:08 Linkie? :) Feb 17 11:37:49 * highvoltage looks for it Feb 17 11:38:24 LP it's mostly good. However more assistance in what package to report against would be a big improvement Feb 17 11:38:50 *is Feb 17 11:39:32 * alyn3d (n=alyn3d@unaffiliated/alyn3d) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:39:43 egh, I can't find it, I read it on planet ubuntu about a week ago Feb 17 11:41:52 Isn't there one specific package you're suppose to report ISO testing to? Feb 17 11:41:58 s/package/product Feb 17 11:42:00 here's the post: http://www.ogmaciel.com/?p=321 Feb 17 11:42:07 can't remember where I saw the screenshots though Feb 17 11:43:14 somerville32: yes, but when a bug is found bug report is also needed Feb 17 11:43:17 I may say that I do like launchpad. Two drawbacks: license and random errors, but I think they've been working on the errors. Feb 17 11:43:57 btw, I have herd2 installed and it works good except that I was not able to run vmware Feb 17 11:44:24 hyper_ch: it's best to test with the latest alpha, it might be fixed in herd4 now Feb 17 11:44:57 hyper_ch: it might also be possible that you just need to install the kernal headers package, since vmware would not ship pre-compiled modules for feisty yet Feb 17 11:45:02 Xubuntu has been unable to release herd 3 and herd 4 Feb 17 11:45:09 highvoltage: well, I haven't tested it so far again because I used the same /home as in edgy and the quicklauncher was replaced... feisty doesn't like the one from edgy and vice-versa Feb 17 11:45:09 I'd like to be able to get the release candidate out Feb 17 11:45:10 oh wow, ok Feb 17 11:45:27 rync is excellent for keeping up to date! Feb 17 11:45:41 *rsync Feb 17 11:45:58 grazie: The issue is that the distro team won't release it until we can prove we've tested the ISOs Feb 17 11:46:00 somerville32: take a look at the new terminal icon, i just emailed to the list Feb 17 11:46:30 * somerville32 nods at Jmak. Feb 17 11:46:43 I dunno if it is because of lack of man power or lack of reports Feb 17 11:46:54 somerville32: what proof do they need? Feb 17 11:47:22 * duglas has quit ("Leaving") Feb 17 11:47:32 Just people saying it worked Feb 17 11:47:35 * issocabin has quit (No route to host) Feb 17 11:47:35 Same as the other distros Feb 17 11:47:57 somerville32: that can be arranged :) Feb 17 11:48:28 Awesome. Feb 17 11:48:37 Does Edubuntu have a testing team? Feb 17 11:48:39 * issocabin (i=issocabi@219.148.226.143) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 11:49:04 somerville32: it does. it's fairly loose, there's a team in LP too Feb 17 11:49:13 somerville32: and a bunch of wiki pages for co-ordination Feb 17 11:49:15 * issocabin has quit (Client Quit) Feb 17 11:49:27 highvoltage, Do you find it effective? Feb 17 11:49:46 somerville32: it could be better, but so far it has worked well Feb 17 11:49:56 somerville32: we'll need something better as edubuntu becomes more complicated Feb 17 11:50:22 somerville32: the benefig that edubuntu has is, it uses the exact same desktop environment as ubuntu, so it gets a lot of free testing there Feb 17 11:50:22 * somerville32 nods. Feb 17 11:50:42 somerville32: i think xubuntu's testing is even a bit more work than with edubuntu Feb 17 11:50:54 The biggest thing is making sure the ISOs are tested for us Feb 17 11:50:54 somerville32: I suppose what I really meant is that saying that the iso's worked can easily be faked :( Feb 17 11:51:08 ah I see Feb 17 11:51:28 somerville32, i had a great install experience with the nightlies leading up to herd4. Feb 17 11:51:41 j1mc: Did you report that? Feb 17 11:51:46 no :( Feb 17 11:51:51 hehe Feb 17 11:51:54 See, we need that Feb 17 11:52:05 We need to get an official testing team together maybe Feb 17 11:52:07 i'm mostly on xubuntu-user mailing list. Feb 17 11:52:21 j1mc: Would you like to head up an Xubuntu testing team? Feb 17 11:52:47 what would it entail? are there other examples of testing teams? Feb 17 11:53:13 IT seems like you already do quite a bit of testing Feb 17 11:53:30 So you'd just need to recruit a few more people to help you out and schedule regular testing Feb 17 11:53:46 Especially just before a pre-release Feb 17 11:53:59 So that we can release an image as the pre-release Feb 17 11:54:05 sure. i think i can do that. Feb 17 11:54:12 What platforms can you test on? Feb 17 11:54:54 just i386 right now. Feb 17 11:55:06 Ok Feb 17 11:55:08 i could get another machine pretty easily. i volunteer for free geek chicago Feb 17 11:55:11 * somerville32 nods. Feb 17 11:55:31 we use xubuntu there, so they'd be willing to donate a machine. Feb 17 11:55:34 * somerville32 nods. Feb 17 11:55:58 So you'd just need to find a few dedicated individuals who could help test the other official platforms too Feb 17 11:56:06 Awesome! :) Feb 17 11:56:36 and then get them to report their results. :) Feb 17 11:56:42 hehe Feb 17 11:56:51 * somerville32 hands j1mc the "Xubuntu ISO QA Manager" hat. Feb 17 11:57:09 * j1mc accepts hat Feb 17 11:57:29 I directed the testing for Herd 2 so we'll have to get together to chat ASAP. Feb 17 11:57:34 I'll pass off everything I have to you Feb 17 11:57:43 i think you set up a wiki about testing, so i'll want to look at that. Feb 17 11:57:48 * somerville32 nods. Feb 17 11:58:15 You'll also want to review all the ISO qa stuff you can find on the wiki for the other derivatives too to see how we can improve our processes. Feb 17 11:58:21 i emailed you about xubuntu-docs, so you have my email address Feb 17 11:58:29 Ok, aweosme Feb 17 11:58:31 *awesome :) Feb 17 11:58:32 ok Feb 17 12:00:05 i work at a healthcare software company (just in the HR dept, though), but I know some QA people. i can talk w/ them about what they do for QA, too. Feb 17 12:00:14 Awesome :) Feb 17 12:00:31 If things go well, your position might evolve into a more general Xubuntu QA guy if you'd like Feb 17 12:00:43 Up to you :) Feb 17 12:01:01 But for now, we need to focus on the ISO testing for upcoming Feisty Release (yea!!) :D Feb 17 12:01:29 Sounds great, somerville32 (the initial testing for Feisty, that is) :) Feb 17 12:01:54 i'll be in touch with you Feb 17 12:02:21 Perfect. Feb 17 12:02:35 I feel much better about that now that there is someone leading that up Feb 17 12:02:37 Thanks a bunch j1mc Feb 17 12:02:51 Next on the agenda is Artwork, Jmak :) Feb 17 12:04:47 j1mc++ Feb 17 12:05:02 btw, I had one big problem with feisty... I have IDE and SDA drives and after the isntall everything was mixed up.... grub wasn't able to select/assign them correctly Feb 17 12:05:11 haha j1mc++ :) Feb 17 12:05:36 j1mc: A good person to chat with is sfflaw as he heads up ubuntu-qa (which extends to Xubuntu) Feb 17 12:05:42 but that's not xubuntu specific Feb 17 12:05:57 thanks . . . i'll note that. Feb 17 12:06:45 Awesome. Feb 17 12:06:52 Jmak, ping Feb 17 12:07:04 Jmak, I think the new terminal icon looks great. Feb 17 12:08:15 Jmak, Did any of the new artwork get uploaded yet? Feb 17 12:08:47 Seems like Jmak is away . . . is there another agenda item that we can go to, and then come back to artwork? Feb 17 12:09:04 * azeem has quit (Operation timed out) Feb 17 12:09:16 Documentation Feb 17 12:09:30 Yessss :) Feb 17 12:09:42 They are on the wike page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Feisty/Incoming Feb 17 12:10:00 oh, there's Jmak. back to artwork then. Feb 17 12:10:43 But nothing has been uploaded to the repositories? Feb 17 12:11:12 as far as know none Feb 17 12:11:23 ok Feb 17 12:11:27 I'll upload some of it Feb 17 12:11:36 ok Feb 17 12:11:40 Anything else you'd like to touch on jmak? Feb 17 12:11:41 One thing I like about ubuntu's new GDM login is that the font has a bit more weight to it. perhaps it's just bolded, but it looks more professional. Feb 17 12:12:01 We have to decide on the use of icons Feb 17 12:12:11 Tango? Feb 17 12:12:23 Dropline looks great Feb 17 12:13:11 link? Feb 17 12:14:04 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Feisty/Desktop/Incoming Feb 17 12:14:07 * cbx33 now has the install iso Feb 17 12:14:10 I'll give it a go Feb 17 12:14:15 cbx33, Thanks Feb 17 12:14:39 Dropline isn't bad Feb 17 12:15:02 I like it too Feb 17 12:15:14 Is it complete? Feb 17 12:15:29 The most popular icon set on the gnome look org Feb 17 12:15:43 Ok Feb 17 12:15:47 Very complete Feb 17 12:16:09 fwiw, i think the gion icon set looks great, too. Feb 17 12:16:15 :) Feb 17 12:16:15 Ok Feb 17 12:16:28 * vlad92 (n=root@89.40.153.139) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 12:16:38 Jmak: Do you have a "package" to present yet? Feb 17 12:16:39 But that one not very complate Feb 17 12:17:07 What package? Feb 17 12:17:12 * j_ack has quit ("Ex-Chat") Feb 17 12:17:38 Like, you're going to have to present a package that includes all the changes you'd like to make so that we can see what it looks like Feb 17 12:17:45 And then if it gets approved, it gets implemented Feb 17 12:18:51 * vlad92 (n=root@89.40.153.139) has left #ubuntu-meeting ("Konversation terminated!") Feb 17 12:18:53 The artworks on the wiki are now, pretty complate Feb 17 12:19:15 * azeem (n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 12:19:15 * alyn3d is away: Traduc o chestie... Feb 17 12:19:24 * alyn3d (n=alyn3d@unaffiliated/alyn3d) has left #ubuntu-meeting ("* Stopping alyn3d IRC user... [ ok ]") Feb 17 12:20:04 It is hard to navigate and see what is decided Feb 17 12:20:24 I dunno what should be changed to accomplish what you want Feb 17 12:20:42 I just a few screenshots here and there Feb 17 12:21:00 I already sent some time ago the xubuntu.xml to the list, I hope someone saved that too Feb 17 12:21:16 * finalbeta (n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be) has joined #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 12:21:53 From the wiki I will deleat all artworks except the final ones. Is that ok? Feb 17 12:22:07 No Feb 17 12:22:09 Please don't Feb 17 12:22:44 Create a new wiki page that clearly outlines the gtk theme engine, theme, icons, etc. Feb 17 12:22:51 Give each package a name Feb 17 12:23:04 ok Feb 17 12:23:08 And then organize it under that name Feb 17 12:23:16 that sounds like a good approach Feb 17 12:23:35 So, if there are a few "packages" that you'd like to propose Feb 17 12:23:42 You might nickname them A, B, and C Feb 17 12:23:57 * dindatx has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) Feb 17 12:24:04 all right Feb 17 12:24:08 And then you'd create a wiki page for each package and have everything related to it on that page (or linked under that page) Feb 17 12:24:17 Make sure to have a clear hierarchy when actually naming the pages Feb 17 12:24:21 ie. Feb 17 12:24:33 Xubuntu/Artwork/Proposed/A Feb 17 12:24:46 Xubuntu/Artwork/Proposed/B Feb 17 12:24:47 Xubuntu/Artwork/Proposed/C Feb 17 12:25:43 ok Feb 17 12:25:44 That way when we visit Xubuntu/Artwork/Proposed/A it shows us exactly how Xubuntu would look if we went with Option A Feb 17 12:27:26 :) Feb 17 12:27:36 sounds good Feb 17 12:27:53 Unfortunately there is a deadline Feb 17 12:27:58 Can you get this all done by the 22nd? Feb 17 12:28:06 Thats 5 days Feb 17 12:28:20 Sure I can do the weekend Feb 17 12:28:26 Ok, perfect. Feb 17 12:28:31 After 22nd, we will start voting Feb 17 12:28:43 ok Feb 17 12:29:03 March 15th is the FINAL deadline Feb 17 12:30:18 We'll be decided on the artwork at the next meeting Feb 17 12:30:32 *deciding Feb 17 12:30:38 ok Feb 17 12:30:39 So please be ready :) Feb 17 12:30:59 sounds good Feb 17 12:31:22 * somerville32 nods. Feb 17 12:31:27 Ok, lets talk about Documentation Feb 17 12:31:29 Now I go and start plannning it Feb 17 12:31:39 see you next time Feb 17 12:31:43 thanks, Jmak Feb 17 12:32:01 * Jmak (n=mak@h66-201-246-248.gtcust.grouptelecom.net) has left #ubuntu-meeting Feb 17 12:32:51 j1mc: Re testing: Herd 5 will be released March 1st Feb 17 12:33:06 I'd really like to see Herd 5 be released via the efforts of your new team :) Feb 17 12:33:24 ok. i'll do my best. Feb 17 12:33:54 Ok, onto Documentation Feb 17 12:34:07 We're doing better then Edgy Feb 17 12:34:13 We've seen some small updates Feb 17 12:34:20 But nothing substantial has been completed Feb 17 12:35:02 i saw your spec up. how does that stand? Feb 17 12:35:24 i can't remember the name of it off hand. Feb 17 12:35:30 That'll have to be deferred to Feisty+1 Feb 17 12:35:42 Where we'll really have to pull up our socks Feb 17 12:35:53 For the rest of this release, we should focus on improving current documentation Feb 17 12:36:04 ie. removing/updating outdated info Feb 17 12:36:16 And adding in new stuff that is applicable Feb 17 12:36:35 i've been filing just a few bug reports, but would like to file some more. Feb 17 12:36:41 We simple do not have time to do the big overhaul that the other derivatives have done with their documentation. Feb 17 12:36:47 * somerville32 nods. Feb 17 12:36:49 btw, how do you select the appz that get added to the standard install? Feb 17 12:37:41 seeds Feb 17 12:37:59 j1mc: Are you interested in helping with documentation? Feb 17 12:38:35 i am, but i don't know docbook xml. i have the current ubuntu-docs files installed locally via subversion, though. Feb 17 12:38:43 It is pretty easy Feb 17 12:39:00 It isn't anything special Feb 17 12:39:17 I think we should organize a documentation sprint Feb 17 12:39:27 yeah . . . i think that if i'm going to be doing the QA stuff, that i shouldn't try to take on too much writing of documentation. Feb 17 12:39:28 Unfortunately, with me being in the hospital currently, I dunno when we could Feb 17 12:39:37 j1mc: *nods* Feb 17 12:39:45 my regular job is going to be pretty crazy between now and the end of the month. Feb 17 12:40:17 :D Feb 17 12:40:18 * somerville32 nods. Feb 17 12:40:21 i plan to do a major bug reporting day, though. checking links, looking for items that are outdated, etc. Feb 17 12:40:25 Alrighty, so we'll try to set a date for a sprint Feb 17 12:40:35 Where we all get together on IRC and work on the documentation Feb 17 12:40:49 We can discuss the date on the xubuntu-devel and -users mailing list Feb 17 12:41:04 would it be good to have the bugs filed prior to our sprint? Feb 17 12:41:34 We'll certainly review the bugs at the sprint Feb 17 12:41:44 So it would be a good way to create a todo list if you'd like Feb 17 12:41:57 Infact, that would be a wonderful idea Feb 17 12:42:03 It would make it easy for new people to find things to do Feb 17 12:42:04 yes... it would help to focus our efforts Feb 17 12:42:10 * somerville32 nods. Feb 17 12:42:38 Alrighty Feb 17 12:42:43 This has been a VERY productive meeting :) Feb 17 12:42:45 * somerville32 is happy. Feb 17 12:43:27 highvoltage, What do you call your guy's qa team? Feb 17 12:43:28 ok . . . i have tomorrow and monday off from work, so look for a bunch of bug reports from me over the next few days. Feb 17 12:43:32 :D Feb 17 12:43:35 j1mc++ Feb 17 12:43:53 haha Feb 17 12:45:17 is that it for documentation? Feb 17 12:46:00 I guess so :) Feb 17 12:46:48 ok, well, we'll get the bugs filed, and then . . . do you want to set a tentative date for the doc-sprint? Feb 17 12:47:08 Well, I dunno when I'll be discharged from the hospital and I'd really like to be at the sprint Feb 17 12:47:14 Not to say that you can't hold it without me Feb 17 12:47:51 no, i think it would be best if you were there. Feb 17 12:47:57 Alright Feb 17 12:48:07 We can discuss it on the mailing list and I'll try my best to get there. Feb 17 12:48:30 ok. good luck getting better! Feb 17 12:48:34 Thanks :) Feb 17 12:48:54 If there isn't anything else... Feb 17 12:49:34 * somerville32 declares the meeting over. Feb 17 12:49:50 thanks, somerville32 }}}