== Agenda == * Review ACTION points from previous meeting * (carried forward) arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU * arosales create a overview topic bp for servercloud * Saucy Development * Release Tracking Bug Tasks - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server * Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-saucy/group/topic-saucy-servercloud-overview.html * Ubuntu Server Team Events * Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) * Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) * Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) * Open Discussion * Announce next meeting date, time and chair * ACTION: meeting chair (of this meeting, not the next one) to carry out post-meeting procedure (minutes, etc) documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase == Minutes == === Review ACTION points from previous meeting === Arosales expected to have the new burndown chart by the end of the day. === Saucy Development === There were no critical release bugs at thie moment. Daviey asked that everyone take another look to make sure blueprints are all correct. * ''ACTION:'' everyone look over blueprints one more time === Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) === There were some failures late last week with the server image, but those are all good now except the floodlight test, which kernel team will bisect for. === Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) === Regression testing against dkms packaging is still todo. smb was waiting for a list of dkms packages, Daviey wanted all. jibel had mentioned having a prototype ready. === Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) === No new updates or questions. No updates yet on go 1.1 in saucy on arm, so rbasak was going to look into that. * ''ACTION:'' rbasak to follow up on go 1.1. saucy arm issue === Open Discussion === There was some discussion on post-meeting work not being regularly done by meeting chairs. Since everything is nicely documented in the server guide, it was agreed that a weekly reminder to the meeting chair to follow the steps therein would be useful. * ''ACTION:'' rbasak consider telling hallyn to add a todo item to meeting checklist to remind meeting chair about the wiki page checklist. == Action items == * (carried over) arosales: create a overview topic bp for servercloud * everyone look over blueprints one more time * rbasak to follow up on go 1.1. saucy arm issue * rbasak consider telling hallyn to add a todo item to meeting checklist to remind meeting chair about the wiki page checklist. ==== Agree on next meeting date and time ==== Next meeting will be on Tuesday, June 18 at 16:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. == Log == {{{ [15:57] o/ [15:57] o/ [15:58] hola [15:59] o/ [16:00] o [16:00] hello [16:00] o [16:01] #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team [16:01] Meeting started Tue Jun 11 16:01:05 2013 UTC. The chair is hallyn. 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[16:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: [16:01] #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:01] o/ [16:01] o [16:01] (carried forward) arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU [16:01] hallyn, I still have to todo to create a server cloud burndown. I am working on it now. should have an a topic by eod. [16:01] hallyn, that one can be removed [16:01] cool, thanks [16:02] arosales: thanks [16:02] arosales create a overview topic bp for servercloud [16:02] oh that's that [16:02] arosales: the bp one can be removed, wht about the SRU item? [16:02] hallyn, reverse [16:02] * hallyn confused [16:02] ok [16:02] sru can be removed [16:02] topic can stay [16:03] to ensure I get it done :-) [16:03] but you intend to get that done today [16:03] hallyn, correct [16:03] #action (carried over) arosales: create a overview topic bp for servercloud [16:03] ACTION: (carried over) arosales: create a overview topic bp for servercloud [16:03] #topic Saucy Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Saucy Development [16:04] Release Tracking Bug Tasks - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server [16:04] there are 4 critical bugs in that link [16:04] bug 1175028 [16:04] bug 1175028 in mongodb (Ubuntu Saucy) "Mongodb links GPL code with SSL" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1175028 [16:04] defer [16:04] currently being discussed by TB [16:04] ok, bug 1176686 [16:04] bug 1176686 in qtchooser (Ubuntu Raring) "qtchooser does not properly work with multiarch" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1176686 [16:05] is that server? [16:05] hallyn: nah [16:05] ok, bug 969733 [16:05] bug 969733 in oss4 (Ubuntu Precise) "oss4-dkms 4.2-build2005-2ubuntu1: oss4 kernel module failed to build (cp: cannot stat `/lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic/source/include/linux/limits.h': No such file or directory)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/969733 [16:05] also not server i'm guessing [16:06] ok, so nm the critical ones - anything you wanted to bring up here, Daviey? [16:06] Nope. :) [16:06] Things seem to be progressing well. [16:06] Just really, make sure bluepritns are totally nailed. :) [16:07] are there any that are worrying you? [16:07] And do add WI's as more stuff appears [16:07] hallyn: not specifically [16:07] hm, yeah i might have some WIs to add... [16:07] ok, do you want an action to do one more once-over on all our blueprints,? [16:08] #action everyone look over blueprints one more time [16:08] ACTION: everyone look over blueprints one more time [16:08] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:08] anything coming up? [16:08] Nothing I can think of.. [16:08] arosales: know of anything? [16:09] ok, moving on [16:09] #tpic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) [16:09] bleh [16:09] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) [16:09] plars: all well? [16:09] nothing big from me at the moment, there were some failures late last week with the server image [16:09] but all is well now [16:09] except the floodlight test still of course [16:09] Daviey, for events just oscon coming up [16:09] awesome. questions for plars? [16:09] kernel team has a kernel to bisect for that [16:10] going to try to get to it this week if I can, but the other guy that does production qa (psivaa) is out right now [16:10] so I'm covering a lot at the moment [16:10] will get to it as soon as I can [16:10] thanks, plars [16:10] plars: Thanks for the update [16:10] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:10] Kernel is good (until we slap in 3.10 at least). Questions? [16:10] your irc comment pasting reflex time may be better than the brake reflex time of most drivers around here [16:10] smb: Are kernel uploads being regression tested against dkms packages yet? === vanhoof_ is now known as vanhoof [16:11] Daviey, Have you told us which? [16:11] Officially I mean [16:11] Or better plars [16:11] smb: When this was last discussed, i suggetsed all dkms packages [16:12] * [16:12] smb: jibel mentioned yesterday that he has a prototype of this, not sure on the details other than that [16:12] At least having a documented history of when the regression was introduced has value. [16:12] This would be a few and maybe not all with a naming scheme to detect and not necessarily server related [16:12] plars: Oh splendid. Can you find out the details for next weeks meeting please? [16:13] Daviey: why wait a week? I'll either send smb an email, or have jibel do it since he's closer to the action on that piece [16:13] smb: Right, it's not actually that many. Listing the reverse dependencies of dkms itself should suffice [16:13] plars, Sounds good [16:13] no action needed for that? === log is now known as Logan_ [16:14] ok, moving on [16:14] plars: pls keep me in the loop [16:14] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) [16:14] Nothing new to report. Any questions for me? [16:14] hi rbasak [16:14] rbasak, is the go 1.1 issue in saucy resolved now? [16:14] * jamespage is being lazy [16:14] Oh, good question. I don't think there's been any progress on it. I need to follow up. [16:15] rbasak: How are the arm saucy images looking? [16:15] * rbasak makes a note [16:15] #action rbasak to follow up on go 1.1. saucy arm issue [16:15] ACTION: rbasak to follow up on go 1.1. saucy arm issue [16:15] thanks, moving on in 3, [16:15] 2, 1, [16:15] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Open Discussion [16:16] anything? [16:16] o [16:17] Just a note for meeting chairs, while they're all here. [16:17] There's been some confusion lately about what needs to be done after a meeting. [16:17] good thinking [16:17] There's a good list in the Knowledgebase [16:17] I just wanted to point out that the steps are enumerated at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase [16:17] Right. [16:17] yes, everyeone please follow that and fill in if anything is missing [16:18] I think we've done a good job of keepign it uptodate [16:18] thanks rbasak. is there anything in particular that isn't being done? [16:18] (regularly) [16:18] specifically, "move yourself to the back" hasn't been done for a while it seems [16:18] Sometimes minutes aren't being done also. [16:19] It causes confusion in subsequent meetings, since action items go missing or are from older meetings that have already been resolved. [16:19] i think it might help if we say it should be done by either thu or friday [16:19] I think it's just due to all chairs not knowing that the process is documented. [16:19] So now it's documented :) [16:19] once it gets into monday, i think ppl feel that it's too late [16:20] but i'll wait for someone else to recommend that :) moving on? [16:20] +1 [16:20] I think part of the problem is that individually we chair quite infrequently [16:20] feels frequent to me :) [16:20] A reminder at the end of the meeting might help. Perhaps we could add it as a standing action item in the agenda? [16:20] rbasak: Fancy being the resident chair? :) [16:21] * hallyn takes a step back and admires rbasak's team spirit [16:21] :) [16:21] As resident chair, I delegate the task of doing this week's minutes to hallyn :-P [16:21] rbasak: a remidner at most should consist of a pointer to the wiki page [16:21] +1, super [16:22] remember, moin minutes are generated courtesy of meetingology. [16:22] yeah but i prefer manually generated, actually meaningful notes [16:22] moin generated ones aren't actually helpful imo. just to fill in a chekcmark in your todo list [16:22] True. [16:22] I use the moin notes as a starting point [16:23] But one step at a time. Step 1: do something for the minutes. Anything. [16:23] The chair can take care to word their action points suitably to make a more useful autogenerated moin output [16:23] #action rbasak consider telling hallyn to add a todo item to meeting checklist to remind meeting chair about the wiki page checklist. [16:23] ACTION: rbasak consider telling hallyn to add a todo item to meeting checklist to remind meeting chair about the wiki page checklist. [16:23] I'll do it now :) [16:23] INVALID [16:23] all right, moving on, [16:23] #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Announce next meeting date, time and chair [16:24] same time, same place? [16:24] That'll be next tuesday, June 18 at 16:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. [16:24] thanks, everyone. [16:24] thanks for charing hallyn :-) [16:24] thanks for chairing hallyn [16:24] #endmeeting }}}