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 * Developer Jussi wants to develop for his new shiny tablet, selects from "maemo SDK" from "Add Application menu" on the latest Ubuntu, codenamed "Greased Garrot"
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 * Inclusion of Scratchbox 0.9.8.8 into the 'universe' repository (or in other words, the latest version of scratchbox supported for development on the Maemo platform)  * Inclusion of Scratchbox 1.0.7 and latest modular packages into the xxxx repository
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 * Inclusion of the Maemo SDK on the next version of Ubuntu (feisty). How this will be done is one of the object of discussions of this specification.  * Inclusion of the Maemo SDK metapackage on the next version of Ubuntu (feisty). How this will be done is one of the object of discussions of this specification.
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 * Is a meta-package for easing installation of Maemo SDK worth the effort? (quite probably, yes)    * universe requires scratchbox buildable with Ubuntu buildd's. scratchbox requires Debian sarge build environment. unless someone has time to fix that,
 * Is "binary-only" scratchbox acceptable as temporary measure?
    * sources would still need to be included, but they will not buildable in Ubuntu setup.
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MikhailSobolev: it might be unreasonable to work on Scratchbox 0.9.8.8. The current situation (as of November 2006) is that SB 0.9.8.8 is the closest to the internal development environment. However both Maemo team and internal SDK team are working on moving toward Scratchbox Apophis, which is being evaluated by internal SDK team '''at this very moment''', based on the evaluation some fixes might be done to SB Apophis r4 (resulting in at least r5). Then it should be possible to do Maemo development using the latest version of SB. :)  * Who gives a go/no-go decision is scratchbox can be included as "binary-only" RikuVoipio

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Summary

Maemo development on Ubuntu is a suboptimal experience currently, as external packages need to be downloaded, and the Maemo SDK needs to be manually installed.

The purpose of this specification is to allow Scratchbox to be part of the 'universe', and maintained in a way that makes it easy for developers both from the open source community, and from Nokia, are able to use Ubuntu for Maemo development in a painless way.

Rationale

  • External repositories are evil

Use cases

  • Developer Jussi wants to develop for his new shiny tablet, selects from "maemo SDK" from "Add Application menu" on the latest Ubuntu, codenamed "Greased Garrot"

Scope

  • Inclusion of Scratchbox 1.0.7 and latest modular packages into the xxxx repository
  • Inclusion of the Maemo SDK metapackage on the next version of Ubuntu (feisty). How this will be done is one of the object of discussions of this specification.
  • Both Scratchbox and Maemo SDK need to be supported to their latest versions, even after feisty (and subsequent releases) are launched. Updates must be provided via feisty-backports, and possibly feisty-proposed + feisty-updates.

Design

Implementation

Code

Data preservation and migration

Unresolved issues

  • How can Maemo SDK be successfully made available for Ubuntu developers?
    • Directly?
    • Via a stable URL which is used for download
    • In both cases, the Maemo SDK license agreement must be shown to the user, and accepted before installation proceeds
  • What repository (universe, multiverse, commercial) should be used for the Maemo SDK?
    • universe requires scratchbox buildable with Ubuntu buildd's. scratchbox requires Debian sarge build environment. unless someone has time to fix that,
  • Is "binary-only" scratchbox acceptable as temporary measure?
    • sources would still need to be included, but they will not buildable in Ubuntu setup.

BoF agenda and discussion

Discussion Part

  • Who gives a go/no-go decision is scratchbox can be included as "binary-only" RikuVoipio


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