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* with less crufty infrastructure * using existing tools like `adduser`, `pppoeconf` and the like |
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* the choice of infrastructure is wrong (perl for the backends, C for the frontends) and got too bloated over the time, | * graphical system tools are very important to new users * the choice of infrastructure is very hard to maintain (perl for the backends, C for the frontends) and grew (a bit wildly) over the time, |
Launchpad Entry: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/gst-to-umbrella
Created: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:38:33 +0200 by DanielHolbach
Contributors: MichaelVogt, SebastienBacher, ManuCornet
Packages affected: gnome-system-tools, system-tools-backends, liboobs
Summary
The ["DesktopTeam"] is planning to gradually replace the gnome-system-tools with tools from the umbrella project. This will basically
- be a rewrite in PyGTK,
- with less old infrastructure
using existing, robust tools like adduser, pppoeconf and the like
gradually obsoleting xubuntu-system-tools as well.
The name Umbrella was chosen by picking a random word from Finnegan's wake. Apart from that it contains the Ubuntu-'u' and can be understood as an umbrella project shipping a set of system tools.
Rationale
The ["DesktopTeam"] feels this step is necessary, because
- graphical system tools are very important to new users
- the choice of infrastructure is very hard to maintain (perl for the backends, C for the frontends) and grew (a bit wildly) over the time,
- the existing code is old, partially obsolete and hard to maintain,
- upstream and distro maintenance is not satisfactory, we have many grave and weird bugs.
[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bugs gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) bugs], [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/system-tools-backends/+bugs system-tools-backends (Ubuntu) bugs]
- the existing packages are heavily patched and those patches are not included upstream.
Use cases
My mother tries to change her password through the users-admin. After confirming the dialog and rebooting the box she can't login any more.
Michael wants to package a new upstream release. He spends seven hours on merging our existing patches.
Tollef is called for assistance on a weird amd64 bug. Although being an expert, it takes him six hours to find the cause in a weird, self-written crypt() function.
Scope
Design
Implementation
The ["DesktopTeam"] will gradually try to replace system tools. The first step will involve to use SimpleGladeApp to be able to re-use the existing interfaces.
["ManuCornet"]'s ["ServicesAdminRedesign"] considerations will be taken into account.
Code
Data preservation and migration
We will continue on shipping gnome-system-tools and its infrastructure in edgy - this will make it easy to pedal back, if we need to.
Outstanding issues
BoF agenda and discussion
FutureOfGst (last edited 2008-08-06 16:31:44 by localhost)