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This page is an open discussion about wheter or not we must consider Epiphany as a default browser instead of Firefox.
This page has not to be considered before Breezy release.
This page is an open discussion about whether or not to consider Epiphany as a default browser instead of Firefox.
This page has not to be considered before Breezy release, and is aimed at Breezy+1.
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!! Warning !! This page is not endorsed by any Ubuntu developper and is only an open discussion. There is no official plan to replace Firefox by Epiphany. '''Note''': This page is not endorsed by any Ubuntu developer and is only an open discussion. There is no official plan to replace Firefox by Epiphany.
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== What think the average Joe user about Epihany or Firefox ? ==

Most of average users don't care at all. In fact, they don't see any difference if you ask them.

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 * Epiphany is well integrated with the Gnome desktop and follow the global theme and global options (like displaying text beside buttons,etc)
 * Epiphany follows the gnome release schedule
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 * Epiphany is well integrated with GNOME and follows the global theme and global options (like displaying text beside buttons, GNOME proxy settings, etc).
 * Epiphany follows the GNOME release schedule making it easier to synchronize new releases of Epiphany with new releases of Ubuntu.
 * Epiphany's tab handling is better than Firefox's (although this is set to change when Firefox 1.5 arrives, and is improved by some Firefox extensions)
 * Epiphany has "session saving" built in - which means that if for some reason it does crash, it will ask "do you want to restore you previously open pages" when restarting. Although there is a Firefox extensions that does this, it is not installed by default.
 * Epiphany follows the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines which helps it feel more consistent with the rest of the GNOME desktop. For example, the preferences dialog uses tabs and takes a more simple approach than that of Firefox.
 * Epiphany seems to use less RAM, possibly because it utilizes GTK+ without the overhead of XUL. Lower resource requirements are important to keep in mind when trying to gain marketshare in countries where older computers are more common.
 * Translations are easier because of Epiphany's I10n support.
 * Epiphany adheres to freedesktop .org bookmarks standards.
 * Bookmarks can be imported from Firefox/Mozilla, Galeon, or Epiphany to make retaining bookmarks easy. They can exported to Firefox/Mozilla if the user decides to use Firefox instead.
 * On middle-config (between 600MHz and 1GHz), Epiphany is much faster and doesn't eat 100% of CPU when an adress is not responding
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 * ...  * Firefox has some widely-installed extensions that Epiphany has no equivalent for (yet). The most commonly referred-to one is Adblock - although Epiphany has a plan for an equivalent http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany_2fAdBlockExtension (This is, IMHO, not an argument since it's only a power user tool. You cannot provide by default a browser that alter the web like AdBlock! So, the extension is not to be installed by default and must not be considered, like many extensions, as an argument. Same apply to webdev extension (wich is very cool))
 * Having Firefox will help ease transition for users of Windows and MacOS, as Firefox is available on those platforms. However, Firefox has a few interface differences between platforms which can confuse users who expect Firefox on Windows to be identical to Firefox on Linux. (e.g. "Preferences" menu entry is under "Tools" in Windows but it is under "Edit" in Linux, clicking the URL entry area once in Windows selects all text but clicking once in Linux does not, etc.)

== General points ==
 * Firefox contains more "power user" features, which could be argued as a good point by both sides.
 * Firefox supports keywords in the address bar "google something", whereas in Epiphany "keymarks / smart bookmarks" appear as a dropdown menu
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 * Epiphany depend on Firefox, so in any case Firefox must be installed.  * Epiphany currently depends on Firefox, so in Firefox must be installed to have Epiphany. This could be dealt with by creating a seperate Gecko package, which Firefox, Epiphany, Galeon, Mozilla, et cetera depend on.

== Related Links ==
 * Epiphany-Firefox comparison on Epiphany site http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany_2fFirefoxComparision
 * "Should Firefox be the default Gnome browser"? http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany_2fFrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-ba622057b4fb0e671c16b6d9868912f8af22bec0

This page is an open discussion about whether or not to consider Epiphany as a default browser instead of Firefox. This page has not to be considered before Breezy release, and is aimed at Breezy+1.

Note: This page is not endorsed by any Ubuntu developer and is only an open discussion. There is no official plan to replace Firefox by Epiphany.

What must be a default browser ?

A default browser must be simple enough and doesn't need a lot of features by default. (to complete)

What think the average Joe user about Epihany or Firefox ?

Most of average users don't care at all. In fact, they don't see any difference if you ask them.

In favor of Epiphany as the default

  • Epiphany is well integrated with GNOME and follows the global theme and global options (like displaying text beside buttons, GNOME proxy settings, etc).
  • Epiphany follows the GNOME release schedule making it easier to synchronize new releases of Epiphany with new releases of Ubuntu.
  • Epiphany's tab handling is better than Firefox's (although this is set to change when Firefox 1.5 arrives, and is improved by some Firefox extensions)
  • Epiphany has "session saving" built in - which means that if for some reason it does crash, it will ask "do you want to restore you previously open pages" when restarting. Although there is a Firefox extensions that does this, it is not installed by default.
  • Epiphany follows the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines which helps it feel more consistent with the rest of the GNOME desktop. For example, the preferences dialog uses tabs and takes a more simple approach than that of Firefox.
  • Epiphany seems to use less RAM, possibly because it utilizes GTK+ without the overhead of XUL. Lower resource requirements are important to keep in mind when trying to gain marketshare in countries where older computers are more common.
  • Translations are easier because of Epiphany's I10n support.
  • Epiphany adheres to freedesktop .org bookmarks standards.
  • Bookmarks can be imported from Firefox/Mozilla, Galeon, or Epiphany to make retaining bookmarks easy. They can exported to Firefox/Mozilla if the user decides to use Firefox instead.
  • On middle-config (between 600MHz and 1GHz), Epiphany is much faster and doesn't eat 100% of CPU when an adress is not responding

In favor of Firefox as the default

  • Firefox is well known and "hype"
  • Firefox has some widely-installed extensions that Epiphany has no equivalent for (yet). The most commonly referred-to one is Adblock - although Epiphany has a plan for an equivalent http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany_2fAdBlockExtension (This is, IMHO, not an argument since it's only a power user tool. You cannot provide by default a browser that alter the web like AdBlock! So, the extension is not to be installed by default and must not be considered, like many extensions, as an argument. Same apply to webdev extension (wich is very cool))

  • Having Firefox will help ease transition for users of Windows and MacOS, as Firefox is available on those platforms. However, Firefox has a few interface differences between platforms which can confuse users who expect Firefox on Windows to be identical to Firefox on Linux. (e.g. "Preferences" menu entry is under "Tools" in Windows but it is under "Edit" in Linux, clicking the URL entry area once in Windows selects all text but clicking once in Linux does not, etc.)

General points

  • Firefox contains more "power user" features, which could be argued as a good point by both sides.
  • Firefox supports keywords in the address bar "google something", whereas in Epiphany "keymarks / smart bookmarks" appear as a dropdown menu

Outstanding issues with Epiphany

  • Epiphany currently depends on Firefox, so in Firefox must be installed to have Epiphany. This could be dealt with by creating a seperate Gecko package, which Firefox, Epiphany, Galeon, Mozilla, et cetera depend on.

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