## page was renamed from Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting/Logs/2006-06-14 ## page was renamed from MeetingLogs/Edubuntu_2006-06-14 #title Edubuntu Meeting Log 2006-06-14 <> = Meeting June 14, 2006 = == Technical == == Community == * '''ogra''' - announced that it was '''JaneWs''' last day. Every one wished her well for the future * '''JaneW''' - promised to stay in touch * '''ogra''' - announced '''rodarvus''' will be the new Technical Lead for edubuntu * '''ogra''' - announced '''RichardW''' will be the new Top Level Manager for edubuntu (Education Programme Manager) * '''JaneW''' - announced '''RichardW''' is her husband and he will be starting mid-July * '''ogra''' - mentioned that '''mdz''' and '''Keybuk''' performed the specification run yesterday for the Paris summit * '''ogra''' - linked to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuEdgyIdeas for the specs that have been approved * '''ogra''' - mentioned he was concerned '''mdz''' wasn't in the reporting chain in the new structure * '''bluekuja''' - asked for input about guidelines for membership of the testing team * '''ogra''' - suggested talking to '''sfllaw''' as a first point of call, which '''rodarvus''' seconded * '''LaserJock''' - suggested also talking to the BugSquad * '''bluekuja''' - asked if it.edubuntu.org could point to the loco team page for edubuntu * '''highvoltage''' - said he would talk to '''znarl''' to get the change made * '''pips1''' - requested '''cbx33''' and '''highvoltage''' setup a meeting for the website * '''highvoltage''' - agreed but asked if it could be postponed till after the summit == Artwork == * '''cbx33''' - mentioned '''AliasVegas''' was on the lookout for mug shots for the edubuntu homies == Documentation == * '''cbx33''' - announced that he hoped to have the ESA in printed form soon * '''flint''' - expressed joy at having a marketing doc now * '''bluekuja''' - mentioned the ESA should be translated into Italian soon {{{ 02:00 cbx33 <--------------------------------meeting notes start here---------------------------------------> === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:00 Seveas <------------- no, here ---------------> 02:00 kbrooks heh Seveas 02:00 cbx33 damn you :p === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-210-170.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:00 ogra <------------- no ... , here ---------------> 02:00 flint ogra, good morning! 02:00 kbrooks damn you ogra :P 02:00 ogra hey Flik 02:00 JaneW <----- here-----> 02:00 ogra heh === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:01 ogra flint too 02:01 Seveas hi JaneW ! === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:01 ogra sooo 02:01 kbrooks JaneW: you're silly. :-) 02:01 JaneW hi everyone 02:01 ogra we have some major changes i'd like to talk about in advance 02:01 DanielC hi everyone, first time at an Edubuntu meeting. === Yagisan is here, but just lurking === JaneW promises not to be disruptive 02:01 cbx33 ogra: sounds ominous 02:01 ogra rodarvus, around ? === kbrooks waits 02:01 rodarvus ogra: I'm here 02:01 ogra yay 02:02 ogra ok, as you all might have seen on the mailing list, JaneW is leaving us today 02:02 flint JaneW, Bummer... 02:02 DanielC :( 02:02 kbrooks !!! 02:02 kbrooks why? === JaneW waves === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === cbx33 starts the hugs === Seveas hugs JaneW 02:02 cbx33 maybe we should all go on strike 02:02 flint JaneW, what is it, Kids, health or new horizons? 02:03 ogra please giver her a long big hug if you ever meet her in person, the first edubuntu release would never have happened without her === JaneW *hugs* everyone === kbrooks hugs JaneW :( 02:03 bluekuja JaneW: thanks 02:03 JaneW flint: bit of everything, but mostly looking for sane hours 02:03 kbrooks ogra: doesnt surprise me === rodarvus hugs JaneW === cbx33 hugs Lara ;) 02:03 ogra heh 02:03 JaneW ogra: pah, edubuntu is all YOU 02:03 ogra not at all 02:03 kbrooks ogra: other changes? 02:03 ogra i wouldnt have managed any of the paperwork === JaneW expects everyone here to keep making edubuntu better and better 02:04 ogra kbrooks, patiency is golden :P 02:04 kbrooks ogra: OK 02:04 ogra JaneW, we will and if only to please you 02:04 LaserJock hehe 02:04 kbrooks ogra: i'm interested in the changes 02:04 ogra soooo 02:04 ogra that were the negative changes .... 02:05 ogra without JaneW edubuntu would go down the drain, thats a known fact at canonical :) 02:05 ogra so the team was/will be enhanced by two people 02:05 ogra guys .... === ogra *drumrolls* === cbx33 joins in 02:05 cbx33 as he is a drummer :p === bluekuja too === Seveas bangs on the table 02:06 ogra let me introduce you to our new star rodarvus !! 02:06 cbx33 hi rodarvus === rodarvus raises his hand 02:06 rodarvus hi all :) 02:06 Seveas hi === cbx33 slaps rodarvus 5 02:06 DanielC hi rodarvus 02:06 LaserJock hi rodarvus 02:06 bluekuja hello rodarvus 02:06 ogra rodarvus, you might introduce yourself and tell us about what you'll be doing ... 02:06 rodarvus sure 02:07 rodarvus briefly talking about my past: 02:07 ogra (i'm not sure about that myself yet ... but mark said you'll be technical lead aside from OLPC) 02:07 rodarvus I've been doing development on linux for the last twelve years 02:07 rodarvus worked at a few places such as Conectiva, Terra Lycos and Nokia Institute of Technology 02:08 rodarvus I've worked doing distro development for quite a few years now (first rpm based, and later, deb based distros) 02:08 rodarvus and in the last few years gained some expertise on the embedded/semi-embedded market too 02:08 JaneW welcome rodarvus and enjoy the ride === highvoltage arrives 02:09 rodarvus as ogra mentioned, I'll work on OLPC, and, in theory :) 02:09 bluekuja welcome man 02:09 flint rodarvus, welcome, where you from? 02:09 rodarvus will be the "Edubuntu Engineering Lead" - I promise to work hard on it :) 02:09 ogra :) 02:09 rodarvus flint: I'm from Brazil 02:09 rodarvus JaneW, bluekuja: thanks :) 02:10 JaneW where the nuts come from 02:10 flint rodarvus, excellent. 02:10 JaneW *hide* 02:10 ogra heh 02:10 ogra JaneW, nuts like kiko you mean ? 02:10 rodarvus as a coincidence, Brazil is one of the countries which will very likely adopt OLPC in the very near future 02:10 JaneW indeed 02:10 highvoltage JaneW: you will be missed. 02:10 flint JaneW, and good tek... 02:10 rodarvus ogra: heh :D 02:10 JaneW highvoltage: *bow* 02:10 bluekuja rodarvus: np :) 02:11 rodarvus I'm quite eager to meet you guys at Paris, next week (or in the future, for the ones who won't be able to be there) 02:11 rodarvus specially ogra, of whom I have heard great things about :) 02:11 cbx33 wish I was going to Paris with you guys 02:11 flint rodarvus, I would look forward to meeting you in Sao Paulo myself. How close to the capitol do you live? 02:12 highvoltage rodarvus: you're going to paris, cool! 02:12 ogra cbx33, next time 02:12 cbx33 I hope so 02:12 ogra rodarvus, i'm looking forward to it too ;) 02:12 rodarvus in the next few hours I'll start commiting spec braindumps into Blueprint (mostly for OLPC, but also for Edubuntu and Ubuntu itself) 02:12 rodarvus flint: I live in Curitiba, about 600km from So Paulo 02:12 highvoltage :) 02:12 rodarvus highvoltage: indeed! 02:13 flint rodarvus, nice touch the tilde... 02:13 ogra rodarvus, make sure to ping mdz and/or Keybuk about it they did the approval run yesterday already, so yours dont get lost 02:13 ogra (for the specs that is) 02:13 cbx33 yeh I have 2 sitting in there that are awaiting approval 02:13 cbx33 be interesting to see if they get in 02:13 rodarvus overall, the first days at Canonical have been great, already - I sense it will be a *magic* experience to be part of this great team! (in both meanings) 02:14 rodarvus ogra: that will be great! 02:14 rodarvus our OLPC target is not for Edgy, afaik (but I might be wrong) 02:14 flint rodarvus, writing code remains the process of nailing jello to a wall... 02:14 flint :^) 02:14 rodarvus we'll surely have to discuss this a lot, next week :) 02:15 ogra well, edgy would work if you had 10 monkeys coding for you :) 02:15 ogra but given that mark doesnt hire monkeys, i tend to agree :) 02:15 rodarvus right :) 02:15 flint ogra, edgy would work if you had a blue-ray to write it to... === cbx33 could be a monkey for you guys :p 02:15 flint :^) === LaserJock looks around for monkeys 02:16 ogra flint, we'll fix the CDs 02:16 cbx33 wait what am I saying I already am 02:16 ogra ok, next change .... 02:16 flint LaserJock, I would prefer that you called us primates... :^) 02:16 ogra we'll also get a new top level manager for edubuntu 02:16 cbx33 oooh? 02:17 flint ogra, a TLM eh? 02:17 ogra a so called "education program manager" 02:17 ogra i know there are negotiations going on with someone, but i havent heard the final outcome yet, so i cant say much more 02:18 ogra JaneW, do you know anything we could make public ? 02:18 JaneW I think there is a signed agreement now 02:18 ogra YAY 02:18 highvoltage cool. 02:18 cbx33 w00t 02:18 rodarvus great news :) 02:18 JaneW but that's insider trading :P 02:18 ogra hehe 02:18 rodarvus haha 02:18 cbx33 JaneW: you naughty girl 02:18 JaneW start date mid-July 02:18 highvoltage JaneW: heh. are you giving it away there ;) 02:18 highvoltage ? 02:18 LaserJock hehe 02:19 JaneW I wish it was me 02:19 JaneW but it's not :( 02:19 cbx33 awww 02:19 DanielC :( 02:19 JaneW but it is someone I know very well 02:19 ogra highvoltage, that job is up one or two levels in hirarchy (and payment i guess) compared to JaneW'S current job 02:19 ogra edubuntu will be its own little department inside canonical now 02:19 flint JaneW, I will miss you. 02:20 highvoltage interesting. 02:20 cbx33 ogra: exdcellet 02:20 LaserJock ogra: cool 02:20 cbx33 all the more reason to go to BETT2007 !!! 02:20 ogra cbx33, something to discuss with our new manager then :) 02:20 highvoltage ogra: i can't pretend that i understand it all 100%, but my instinct tells me that it will work out good. 02:20 flint cbx33, do not forget NECC in Beautiful San Diego CA... 02:20 cbx33 indeed 02:20 LaserJock ogra: so you, rodarvus and the new manager? 02:20 cbx33 flint: indeed 02:20 ogra LaserJock, yeps 02:20 highvoltage and EC? 02:21 JaneW so the new program manager, who will look at getting edubuntu installed around the world is RichardW 02:21 flint ogra, TLM == ECM? 02:21 highvoltage EC will still vote new members, etc? 02:21 ogra what about EC ? 02:21 ogra sure 02:21 ogra yeah 02:21 LaserJock ogra: so what's your position? if you don't mind me asking ;-) 02:21 ogra our new manager aalso is babysitter for JaneW's kids ;) 02:21 ogra (sometimes) 02:21 highvoltage also a parent of them :) 02:21 LaserJock lol 02:22 bluekuja highvoltage: :D 02:22 ogra LaserJock, i'll report to rodarvus 02:22 JaneW and I have full whipping power with them too 02:22 ogra LaserJock, thats all i was told yet 02:22 flint JaneW, Is your husband RichardW taking over? 02:22 highvoltage ogra: is rodarvus like a mdz for edubuntu? 02:22 ogra flint, hey, you grokked it ! 02:22 flint JaneW, not that this is a bad thing... 02:23 ogra highvoltage, rather Richard ... 02:23 rodarvus Richard is, I think 02:23 JaneW flint: yes 02:23 flint ogra, I am slow, but i make up for it by being pretty stoopid.... :^) === pips1 [n=philipp_@225.9.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:23 JaneW ogra: I am not sure if he will be that *technically* involved, prolly more directional 02:23 flint JaneW, that is pretty romantic (awwwwwwww!). 02:23 ogra just on a sidenote, i'm not happy about not having mdz in the reporting chain 02:23 JaneW ogra and rodarvus will be the technical gurus still 02:24 JaneW flint: pah! :P 02:24 rodarvus actually, I'm still quite new to emit opinions, but I think mdz is kind of unique 02:24 highvoltage ogra: i was thinking the same thing, but decided not to say anything, since it doesn't affect me personally. 02:24 flint ogra, mdz will be in London. Trust me he will be in the chain big time. 02:24 rodarvus in terms of management & techincal skills 02:24 ogra rodarvus, we'll be doing a lot stuff inside the ubuntu distro team, we should talk with sabdfl in paris about the structure 02:24 ogra i think distro team lead involvement is essential (but thats only me) 02:25 rodarvus so I believe it will require involved teamwork to reach the standard of quality mdz has on his work 02:25 ogra yeah 02:25 flint while mdz can be distant, abstract and generally annoying anywere he will be directly applied when he resides in London.... 02:25 rodarvus ogra: sure, I agree 02:25 flint and I mean that in the nicest way... 02:25 ogra but we dont develop very much thats unique usually (OLPC might change that) 02:25 ogra usually we change ubuntu distro packages ... 02:25 cbx33 ogra: indeed 02:26 cbx33 so really big changes then 02:26 ogra adding a feature or two ... 02:26 flint ogra, what the heck is OLPC? 02:26 rodarvus OLPC might change that radically (but this is talk for paris ;) ) 02:26 ogra but well, that something to discuss with sabdfl 02:26 rodarvus flint: http://www.laptop.org/ 02:26 JaneW I am pretty certain mdz will stay involved 02:26 rodarvus its a acronym for One Laptop per Child 02:27 flint oh yea One Laptop Per Child... 02:27 ogra JaneW, not in the structure overview i got from sabdfl ... 02:27 flint the MIT thang... === pips1 waves at JaneW 02:27 rodarvus flint: right, it has lots of potential for students, specially in developing countries === JaneW can almost not help trying to get involved... 02:28 flint I presume that a OLPC terminal will pixie boot just like anything else eh? 02:28 ogra flint, terminal ? 02:28 JaneW hi pips1 02:28 rodarvus what means "pixie boot"? === luzi [n=luzi@dhcp-202-59-vpn.unizh.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:28 flint rodarvus, the only problem would be the RF link. 02:28 ogra rodarvus, PXE 02:28 pips1 hi JaneW 02:28 rodarvus ohh === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:29 rodarvus flint: no. the OLPC hardware has its own flash card (about 500mb large, btw) 02:29 ogra flint, you cant PXE boot wireless devices and i doubt the plan for OLPC is to tie the kids to a LAN wire 02:29 pips1 JaneW, I really am a bit sad to see you go. === pips1 hugs JaneW 02:30 flint ogra, I am slow this morning, the Edubuntu thing has always been a server that ties kid computers into a classrooms together 02:30 rodarvus the OLPC hardware quite specialized - plas for battery life are 24h, uses mesh wifi instead of normal wifi, small memory/storage 02:30 rodarvus s/plas/plans/ 02:30 flint ogra, now with the big flash, shared storage could be a thing. 02:30 ogra flint, yes, thats one of edubuntus areas 02:30 ogra (ltsp) 02:30 flint rodarvus, I smell a fork. 02:30 ogra but onlya one of many you can cover with edubuntu 02:30 rodarvus OLPC also "includes" one (or more) server(s) on the school 02:30 highvoltage rodarvus: so you like franks sinatra heh? :) 02:30 rodarvus but students can take their notebooks home 02:31 rodarvus highvoltage: indeed - how do you learned that? :) 02:31 flint rodarvus, you have big problems running LTSP on wifi. 02:31 ogra i'm really looking forward in rodarvus work for ltsp, since a shrunk down system will help us a lot there 02:32 ogra i.e. i can use the embedded stuff for the ltsp clients and cut down a lot of ram requirement i guess 02:32 rodarvus exactly 02:32 highvoltage rodarvus: your blog page 02:32 rodarvus highvoltage: oh :) 02:32 flint ogra, if it gets faster I vote for it (if I voted...) 02:33 flint :^) 02:33 ogra highvoltage, we all need to learn brazilian now :) 02:33 flint ogra, Portugese... 02:33 ogra well 02:33 ogra :) 02:34 ogra shall we move on with the agenda ? we're at 30min 02:34 flint ogra np :^) 02:34 rodarvus actually, brazilian portuguese 02:34 rodarvus :) 02:34 ogra :) 02:35 flint rodarvus, never could spell anything. 02:35 bluekuja ogra: well I added a point in agenda regarding the Testers Team, to discuss about membership guidelines, todo list etc 02:35 bluekuja with all of you 02:35 ogra from the tech side there is not much i can tell yet, the archive isnt ready for uploads yet, so no packaging work is going on atm ... 02:35 bluekuja to decide a stable guideline for the future 02:36 ogra we have a bunch of approved specs for paris that are listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuEdgyIdeas 02:36 flint ogra, we would like to add gin. is this the place? 02:36 ogra i'm subscribed to most of them in launchpad so you can find another overview that also shows the status under https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs 02:37 ogra flint, gin ? 02:37 flint gnome instant nationalization. helps a lot when setting network xterms up. 02:37 ogra flint, you mean https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ltsp-login-and-session-handling 02:37 ogra ? === theoddone [n=hgibson@hgibson.ee.sun.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:38 flint ogra, na, dclug wrote this quickie. I started and competent folks finished it in python. 02:38 ogra seems mdz didnt see any urge for that, it hasnt even gotten a priority assigned 02:38 flint i suppose mdz does not spend too much time using edubuntu eh? 02:39 flint it is necessary 02:39 ogra flint, we wont tolerate scripts that change /etc/environment or other files that are forbidden to be touched by debian policy 02:39 flint ogra, how do we do this? 02:39 ogra its not the way to solve your prob, i told you this seberal times already 02:39 ogra gdm or ldm are the right place to attack it 02:39 flint the program is written and it works. 02:40 ogra (depending which one we'll use in the future) 02:40 flint the program is vital to multi lingual systems. https://wiki.edubuntu.org/gin 02:40 ogra flint, it breaks the systems, /etc/environment *has not to be touched by anything* in a debian based system 02:41 ogra we discussed it before 02:41 flint ok how do we gain the functionality? 02:41 ogra its not something to solve with a hack 02:41 ogra do it in the right place which is the login manager in this case 02:42 flint ogra, i am a hacker. this hack is to demonstrate the requirement. 02:42 highvoltage sorry, had an interuption (/me catches up) 02:42 flint ogra, I wish I could program, but likely i am too old :^) 02:42 ogra flint, you apparently *can* program ;) 02:42 ogra just do it in the right place ;) 02:43 flint ogra, I want to know how to do this. 02:43 ogra ldm has all functionallity to set the language since its become themed ... 02:44 flint ogra, I will take a look. 02:44 ogra the problem is to determine the list of langs from the server, if thats solved it takes me less than a minute to enable the selection menu 02:44 ogra (in the code) 02:44 ogra aything else for the tech side ? 02:45 ogra flint, btw, will we see you in paris ? === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0091.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:45 flint ogra, I just bought a house in Barre Vermont. and while I would like nothing better than a ciggi break with the likes of you, I need to renovate this victorian monstrosity my wife bought. 02:46 flint :^) === theoddone [n=hgibson@hgibson.ee.sun.ac.za] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] 02:46 flint ogra, I will get the next one, promise. 02:46 ogra heh, good luck :) 02:46 ogra seems to be the time tio change houses ... 02:46 flint ogra, thanks, exactly!!! 02:47 flint ogra, not you too? 02:47 ogra flint, i'm currently moving to this one http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/CIMG0517.JPG 02:47 rodarvus flint: I feel your pain - we moved to our new apartment two months ago 02:47 rodarvus its new, but many, many things had to be done to make it actually a enjoyable place to be === cbx33 can't afford to buy :) 02:47 cbx33 :( 02:48 ogra cbx33, inherit ;) 02:48 cbx33 heh 02:48 ogra (best case from an unknown secret rich uncle) 02:48 rodarvus ogra: its a beautiful place! 02:48 cbx33 well, what's left on the agenda? 02:48 LaserJock ogra: nice, much bigger then my place in the middle of the Nevada desert ;-) 02:48 cbx33 seeing as we have 10 mins :p 02:49 flint you folks throw a hell of a meeting... 02:49 ogra rodarvus, well, i like my current place more, but thats rented, and for the new one we dont have to pay anything 02:49 cbx33 LaserJock: is an alien 02:49 ogra ok, lest move on else we'll be out of time 02:49 ogra do we have anything for artwork ? 02:49 ogra (me guesses not yet) 02:50 cbx33 hmm 02:50 LaserJock cbx33: oops, I was trying to keep it a secret ;-) 02:50 ogra documentation ? 02:50 cbx33 no thought AliasVegas has said she wants piccies of you all to do the edubuntu homie lookalikes :p === ogra kicks his lag ... 02:51 ogra cbx33, but thats something we still have 4 months time for :) 02:51 ogra any doc stuff ? 02:51 highvoltage my lag is bad too :( 02:51 LaserJock is pygi here? the cookbook people had a meeting yesterday 02:51 ogra (i saw you are working with the doc team now) 02:52 cbx33 um, I'm hoping to fix up ESA into it's printed state soon 02:52 flint ogra, I should have something for you doc wise by next week. 02:52 ogra flint, cool 02:52 flint ogra, np. 02:52 ogra flint, i'll really miss you in my cigarette breaks in paris ... 02:53 LaserJock ogra: I'm not sure what cookbook people are doing exactly, but it is getting worked on, I think 02:53 ogra ok, i think we handled management at the beginning and community stuff during general sidetracked chatter :) 02:54 ogra the cookbook developed its own dynamic so i'm confident whats going on is good atm 02:54 flint ogra, me too. I will get you next time. 02:54 ogra so we have bluekuja left, do you want to chair for your topics ? 02:54 ogra 7me hands bluekuja the microphone === cbx33 snatches it and runs away 02:55 bluekuja yeah, oliver 02:55 ogra * Edubuntu Testing Team review: membership,TODO,future (AndreaVeri) === pips1 has finally caught up with the meeting and sends a warm welcome to rodarvus 02:55 bluekuja well, I want to talk with all of you about the -testing team, to create some guidelines about membership etc 02:55 cbx33 come on bluekuja you have 5 mins 02:56 ogra about the future, i'd like to point the team to sfllaw, who is our QA specialist 02:56 JaneW pips1: lol 02:56 rodarvus pips1: thanks :) 02:56 ogra you should work together with him on testing plans and the like 02:56 highvoltage ogra: you've mentioned it before, I'll get sfllaw to join our next edubuntu meeting. he'll be in paris, right? 02:56 ogra yep 02:57 bluekuja ogra: ok great, anyway do you think we need to create some guidelines about the team? creating a working TODO list 02:57 bluekuja and more 02:57 ogra sure, go ahead :) === cbx33 's hand is up when bluekuja is finished 02:57 rodarvus we can also tip him him in paris, if necessary ;) === pips1 's hand is up next after cbx33 02:57 ogra rodarvus, really ? we have a budget for that ?? 02:58 cbx33 I have to go in a while :( meeting soon 02:58 LaserJock ogra: community donations ;-) 02:58 cbx33 in like 3 minutes :( 02:58 ogra haha 02:58 cbx33 nice idea LaserJock 02:58 bluekuja ogra: well, I'll try to create some guidelines alone, so we can discuss them at the next meeting. Some ideas to start? 02:59 ogra as i said, sfllaw will be the best person to start with ... i dont see the need for guidelines to join the team or something ... 02:59 LaserJock bluekuja: I'd talk to the BugSquad (aka sfllaw and #ubuntu-bugs) and check around the wiki 02:59 rodarvus bluekuja: seriously, I believe approaching sfllaw (on irc) is a great start === JaneW pops out for a sec 02:59 bluekuja LaserJock, ogra: perfect 02:59 ogra whoops, my baker just arrived, i need to quicky get some bread 03:00 pips1 lol 03:00 cbx33 oooh nice 03:00 bluekuja yeah, i work with sfflaw with packages too, so it wouldn't be a problem for it 03:00 cbx33 shute i gotta run peeps, meeting time is over for me 03:00 pips1 ogra, that's a proper german. :-D 03:00 cbx33 I'll see you back ing #edubuntu 03:01 cbx33 pips1: feel free to take my hand 03:01 LaserJock cya cbx33 03:01 cbx33 :p 03:01 flint ogra, we call it liquid bread :^) 03:01 pips1 flint hehe 03:01 bluekuja cbx33: soon we'll have ESA in italian too 03:01 pips1 cbx33 ok, cu 03:01 flint bluekuja, what is an ESA? 03:01 LaserJock flint: Edubuntu School Advocacy 03:01 bluekuja edubuntu school advocacy document 03:02 flint bluekuja, got a url? 03:02 bluekuja yeah,http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html 03:02 flint bluekuja, in italiano e piu bene! 03:02 bluekuja :D 03:02 rodarvus pips1: I believe ogra is away for a little while - would you like to go on? === pips1 looks around for jsgotangco 03:03 cbx33 ESA is also on www.edubuntu.org/UsingEdubuntu 03:03 flint A marketing document at last!!! bluekuja you done good!!!!! 03:03 bluekuja we have to say thanks to cbx33 03:03 cbx33 I ported it to there 03:03 bluekuja that started it 03:03 cbx33 and I'll be deleting it from the wiki 03:03 bluekuja and had this great idea 03:03 highvoltage sorry for my quietness the last week. it's been tough, everything seems to happen at the the same time :/ 03:03 pips1 rodarvus, well, I just want to ask all you guys who are attenting paris to try to push for another edubuntu summit, with educators, rather than developers-only :) 03:03 bluekuja np highvoltage 03:04 flint highvoltage, Jonathan, how bad? Death bad? 03:04 LaserJock pips1: what? devs don't know everything? ;-) 03:04 rodarvus pips1: sure, I believe we can also push this subject with RichardW, when he arrives next month 03:04 pips1 who of you guys is going to paris? 03:04 highvoltage flint: no, not quite that bad :) 03:05 flint pips1, the educators were the meeting in london. 03:05 ogra re === LaserJock raises his hand 03:05 pips1 LaserJock :) 03:05 bluekuja Unfortunately I won't be there === rodarvus raises his hand 03:05 flint highvoltage, Girlfriend bad (that is pretty bad...) === ogra raises his hand as well 03:05 cbx33 my hand 03:05 highvoltage flint: slightly worse that that. but the recovery should be quicker. 03:05 cbx33 can I grab it back 03:05 pips1 flint starting rumors again? ;-) 03:05 ogra pips1, our new manager will surely care for edubuntu summits/sprints 03:06 flint highvoltage, Jonathan you need a trip to Sao Paulo! 03:06 pips1 ogra right, cool 03:06 highvoltage flint: indeed, but let's talk about that later. we're just making noise now :) === pips1 nudges highvoltage to raise his hand 03:06 flint highvoltage, sorry gotcha... === cbx33 pushes backin line 03:06 bluekuja ogra: do you think would be possible to have a it.edubuntu.org pointed to edubuntu page in italian loco team page? === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] 03:07 ogra i'm not sure about the naming scheme, but i guess its possible 03:07 flint bluekuja, you may want to talk to Kevin Cole of the dcloco team who already went through that loop sucessfully. 03:07 ogra highvoltage, has some experience with the webserver and dns things ... 03:07 highvoltage znarl could organise that, alhtough he seems to be quite busy atm. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 03:07 highvoltage i've been trying to get hold of him for the past 3 days. 03:07 ogra is it very urgent ? 03:07 bluekuja nope 03:07 bluekuja :) 03:08 bluekuja it would be a great thing, but I can wait 03:08 ogra oki, highvoltage would you poke him about that or pint bluekuja in teh right direction ? 03:08 flint bluekuja, seriously, try kcole 03:08 ogra *point too 03:08 bluekuja flint: ok, I'll try to ping him 03:08 highvoltage bluekuja: i'll talk to znarl about it when i get hold of him. i PM'ed him about an hour ago, when he returns he'll get back to me, he's very efficient that way. === jsgotangco just arrived sorry 03:09 bluekuja ok perfect, thanks 03:09 highvoltage ogra: yep 03:09 ogra jsgotangco, you missed all the fun :P 03:09 flint bluekuja, kjcole@ubuntu.com 03:09 ogra highvoltage, thanks a lot 03:09 highvoltage my pleasure. 03:09 bluekuja filnt: thanks 03:09 jsgotangco ogra: sorry it was a long day for me (visa and everything else) 03:09 bluekuja *flint 03:10 bluekuja ok that's all 03:10 LaserJock cbx33: you had something to say? 03:10 pips1 highvoltage, cbx33, should we try to set a time for a edubuntu website irc meet? to nudge things further along? 03:10 ogra jsgotangco, *you* did miss the fnu, not me ... no need to apologize :) 03:10 ogra the fun too 03:10 cbx33 pips1: sure 03:10 cbx33 LaserJock: just a little 03:10 ogra ok, looks like we're done with the meeting then ... 03:11 ogra anything urgent we missed ? 03:11 highvoltage pips1: yes, can we do it after paris though? i'm flooded with work atm, and my visa problems didn't help much there either, i nearly lost two days worth of work 03:11 cbx33 nope === seanh [i=seanh@ukato.freeshell.ORG] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === seanh is now known as chombee 03:11 pips1 cbx33 are evenings ok for you? highvoltage seems more available in evenings rather than daytime... 03:11 pips1 highvoltage oic :-/ 03:11 cbx33 pips1: yup 03:11 highvoltage yes, evenings are better for me, generally. 03:11 ogra so i'd say: meeting adjourned, please move over to #edubuntu to make the room free for xubuntu 03:11 ogra thanks all 03:11 highvoltage at the moment my work flows over to evenings too :/ 03:12 rodarvus thank you === highvoltage moves to #edubuntu 03:12 pips1 thanks }}}