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   1 <jean7491> Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   2 <massimo21> me
   3 <ILUsion> me too
   4 <clamam> me
   5 <jean7491> hello massimo21 , Clamam , ILUsion , ... JanC ? hfsdo ? Gh0sty ? and others ? 
   6 <JanC> I'm around
   7 <jean7491> hello JanC ,  ... hfsdo ? Gh0sty ? and others ? 
   8 <jean7491> let's start the meeting !
   9 <jean7491> topic #1. past and future events -  September 2010 - update
  10 <jean7491>  item #1  Dipro Hasselt (26/09) - report
  11 <jean7491> report is in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Hasselt_2010-09-26
  12 <massimo21> everything went well
  13 <jean7491> Clamam – massimo21 comment ?
  14 <massimo21> not really
  15 <clamam> follow the link for the full report https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Hasselt_2010-09-26/
  16 <clamam> Setup of the booth:
  17 <clamam> The setup of the booth went smoothly and the U-shaped arrangement on this fair was simple to achieve. We had 1.5 hours of work to complete the booth.Hardware used:
  18 <clamam> 2x PC with monitor 1x server monitor 2x netbooks 2x laptops 1x gamepc with monitor and projector 1x 8-port switch 1x wireless access point for wifi "ubuntu-be" for laptops and netbooksThere was much interest in the ordinary PCs and laptops with ubuntu, the netbooks I found had less success. The hype about the netbooks is not a hypy anumore (on this fair anyway). The (web) server actually had little or no success, this PC next time we
  19 <clamam> There was a lot of people between 10.30h and 12.30h in the afternoon it was around 14.00 a bit crowded, the rest it was pretty quiet. So we had some time to resolve a few bugs in the network that we had build.CD donations:
  20 <clamam> There where about 40 original CDs distributed and 20 copy's. The donations were well , after the payment of the booth (20 €) and parking (12 €) we had 54,25€ left.To Do with the donations:
  21 <clamam> Buy Fabric tablecloth Payment for shipping promotional materials on the next fair we have to purchase blank CDs and cd-sleavesDecision:
  22 <clamam> It was again a pleasant and successful fair.Thanks to Massimiliano, Hans and Thijs.
  23 <clamam> i pasted the report in here, but something went a little bit wrong
  24 <jean7491> can you comment the use of a pc with games to catch attention of visitors ?
  25 <massimo21> while we plaied people was watching with curriosity
  26 <clamam> it was an idea of massimo21 to setup a gamepc
  27 <clamam> we wanted to try something else then only promote ubuntu
  28 <jean7491> you can consider it as a kind of promotion !
  29 <ILUsion> looks like a great way to get attention
  30 <massimo21> idd
  31 <clamam> the people stopt more ad the booth and asked some more questions
  32 <massimo21> especcialy younger people
  33 <jean7491> i've no experience about games, but it could be good to select a few "spectacular" games we could use in fairs, ... games are a first step towards the use of ubuntu
  34 <JanC> might be useful to make a "game PC" image or metapackage or something
  35 <clamam> we could select some games
  36 <ILUsion> (Frozen Bubble)
  37 <massimo21> i installed allot of games with playdeb
  38 <clamam> we played   frets on fire - Alien Arena - Yo Frankie, massimo21 vul dit even aan
  39 <massimo21> like quake wars: enemy territory
  40 <massimo21> nexuiz
  41 <JanC> maybe combining your info with that from LAN party and maybe others would be a good idea
  42 <massimo21> battle of wesknoth
  43 <massimo21> astromenace
  44 <clamam> JanC : we could do that
  45 <clamam> the only thing  is the GamePC
  46 <JanC> make an Ubuntendo remix  :P
  47 <clamam> we had the personal pc from massimo21
  48 <JanC> yeah, that's an issue
  49 <JanC> for some games you need hardware that's powerful enough
  50 <massimo21> maybe we can invest in it in the future
  51 <massimo21> fir the eventbox
  52 <massimo21> in our boot we also had a few chairs, it seems stupid but you really need them for let the people feel comfortable while testing ubuntu
  53 <jean7491> your suggestion for 2 or 3 games easy to use with non powerful pc ?
  54 <JanC> frozen bubble is very addictive of course  ;)
  55 <massimo21> frets on fire, tux racer, world of padman
  56 <jean7491> ok 
  57 <ILUsion> definetly Frozen Bubble
  58 <JanC> massimo21: I'm not sure those work well on all hardware though
  59 <ILUsion> Osmos is also great but not open source; Tux Racer is also quite old so it should work on old HW
  60 <JanC> remember that some of our demo hardware doesn't even have OpenGL support
  61 <massimo21> if they work on a netbook than they arn't that heavy
  62 <JanC> netbooks have small screen
  63 <clamam> we have to try them out on the pc's from the eventbox
  64 <JanC> but you have some point
  65 <JanC> yeah, esting beforehand certainly makes sense  ☺
  66 <JanC> testing
  67 <massimo21> in our eventbox are a few pc' that may work
  68 <ILUsion> World of Goo is also a nice game (but I don't really know how well it works on older / non-OpenGL HW)
  69 <ILUsion> and for kids there is also GCompris
  70 <JanC> also, decent graphics cards aren't too expensive now, if the built-in one can be replaced
  71 <JanC> ILUsion: isn't that closed source?
  72 <ILUsion> World of Goo; I thought they were going to open-source that after the Indie Game Bundle?
  73 <JanC> ah, possible
  74 <JanC> some of them were
  75 <JanC> anyway, let's go to the next point on the agenda
  76 <ILUsion> (hmm apparently World of Goo is not  one of the open-sourced ones)
  77 <jean7491> thanks for the information, we continue, other comment about hasselt ?
  78 <jean7491> and we can add games as topic for a future meeting
  79 <clamam> everyone has to see what for games they can play with the hardware available in the eventbox
  80 <jean7491> you are right, to be tested before the fair, of course !  next  item #2  Nielse computer dag (26/9) - report
  81 <clamam> we can not tell people what games to play because the evnetboxes are not the same
  82 <jean7491> exactly Clamam !   ILUsion your comment about niel  ?
  83 <jean7491> i've no info from nero
  84 <ILUsion> Niel was really nice; we also made a little use of games and movies
  85 <ILUsion> Nero set up Big Buck Bunny on his tv screen to loop, which got a bit of attention
  86 <ILUsion> Hugo set up some demos on his netbook with external screen: some video editing, GCompris, ... which also worked wonders and I used Frozen Bubble to get some attention
  87 <ILUsion> I think we mostly spent our time convincing people of all the benefits and helping with some problems they had with their Ubuntu setups (drivers, DVD playback, ...)
  88 <ILUsion> unfortunately I cannot compare to previous years, and no information about the number of discs distributed. My personal view was that a lot of people were asking how much the computers cost (but that might be explained by the second hand fair that was going on)
  89 <jean7491> it is indeed a classic question in the dipro computer fairs ! what about the contact with club monitor, which has a section linux/ubuntu ? 
  90 <ILUsion> I had little contact with the organization of Club Monitor; but some of their members were happy to support us in convincing others to give Ubuntu a try (and also some explaining of the features, etc)
  91 <jean7491> ok, thanks for your help, it was your first experience !
  92 <ILUsion> no problem
  93 <jean7491> and next time, as expereinced ubuntero, you will explain to others how to do in such an event ! again thanks
  94 <jean7491> next item #3 Dipro Kortrijk (10/10)
  95 <jean7491> for now, only 2 volunteers from ostend en brugge, and nobody from kortrijk area !
  96 <jean7491> as optimistic, i hope more volunteers, ...
  97 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Kortrijk_2010-10-10
  98 <jean7491> i suppose no comment ?
  99 <jean7491> next item #4 Dipro Brugge (17/10)
 100 <jean7491> volunteers are still welcome for a few hours !
 101 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2010-10-17
 102 <selckin> should talk about games every week to get people to pay attention
 103 <jean7491> we can add anitem Promotion - the use of games in the agenda of the meeting ! just ask for it !
 104 <jean7491> ... an item ...
 105 <jean7491> next event, for information : 21-22/10 free software + computers demo days in Ghent Zwijnaarde, organized by Linux-Service
 106 <jean7491> other comment for events ?
 107 <ILUsion> can I add another thing to the report for Niel? I think we had too many netbooks (4 in total) and too little big computers/laptops
 108 <JanC> ILUsion: if the report is on the wiki, please edit it  ☺
 109 <ILUsion> *too few
 110 <jean7491> ILUsion : can yoou summarize what was said to write the report or to send it to nero for coordination ?
 111 <ILUsion> I'll fill in a partial report in the wiki and ask nero to add whatever is missing
 112 <jean7491> ok, thanks !
 113 <jean7491> other comment about events, for example, any idea about (release) parties for 10.10 ?
 114 <jean7491> if no comment, next topic ...
 115 <ILUsion> can't we follow the lead of Vancouver?
 116 <clamam> ILUsion : Vancouver?
 117 <ILUsion> i.e. a real party (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i22efbYLj70 )
 118 <clamam> that's a PARTYYYY
 119 <jean7491> why not ?  (release) parties can be fun, just who will organize it (not necessary large scale), but as i understood, just fun to be together 
 120 <ILUsion> that is indeed the question
 121 <jean7491> but for that, you need local initiative as people don't like to move just for a few hours and a drink
 122 <jean7491> more  (if any?) at the next meeting
 123 <jean7491> topic # 2. Promotion
 124 <JanC> 10/10 will be the kortrijk dipro fair, maybe we can have a drink around there after the fair?  ☺
 125 <jean7491> idd, i can have a drink with wamukota during of after the dipro !
 126 <jean7491> first item Adding  links to the website 
 127 <JanC> I will maybe come too, just want to wait for people from near Kortrijk to put their name on the wiki  ;-)
 128 <jean7491> ok, then perhaps a drink with 3 !
 129 <jean7491> wait and see !
 130 <jean7491> first item Adding  links to the website 
 131 <jean7491>  we already discussed the topic, see draft in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Website/Commercial_links …
 132 <jean7491> the email contact-address for this matter (contact@ubuntu-be.org) is ready, i think
 133 <jean7491> we will start (this week, i hope)  with an announcement in the mailing list and looking for interested companies/organizations through personal contacts 
 134 <jean7491> JanC comment ?
 135 <jean7491> JanC no comment ?
 136 <jean7491> second item,  t-shirts for Ubuntu-be  
 137 <JanC> well, the address should work, so please do...
 138 <jean7491> ok
 139 <jean7491> result doodle poll for a preselection: 14 votes: 7x v2-be; 6x v4-be; 7x v6-be 
 140 <jean7491> see the designs in  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts 
 141 <jean7491> ... but, as warddr (leading the project is not available today …
 142 <jean7491>  i suggest a new meeting lead by warddr to compare the price estimations of the 3 preselected designs , and – to take final decision or organize a new poll via doodle? 
 143 <massimo21> ok
 144 <jean7491> other comment ?
 145 <massimo21> what about the prise for te sleeve
 146 <jean7491> no idea, warddr should have the information
 147 <massimo21> then we just qait
 148 <massimo21> wait
 149 <jean7491> ok
 150 <jean7491> item 3 ubuntu and facebook 
 151 <massimo21> it is started
 152 <jean7491> the ubuntu-be facebook page is now working with an animation team administrating the page
 153 <clamam> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=87950312093
 154 <massimo21> but is not a page but a group
 155 <massimo21> so everyone can just post on it
 156 <jean7491> i learn every day something !
 157 <jean7491> volunteers to work in our facebook team can apply to through irc or mailing list
 158 <jean7491> and suggestions/proposition to improve our facebook image are welcome
 159 <massimo21> or they just can post whenever they feel like
 160 <massimo21> i already changed the image
 161 <jean7491> and thanks to the facebook team for the work !
 162 <massimo21> but it still can be better
 163 <jean7491> other comment ?
 164 <clamam> no
 165 <jean7491> item 4. ubuntu and education
 166 <jean7491> as we already discuss, we need an “education-team” to help the promotion of ubuntu in schools and everywhere (content and how to?). 
 167 <jean7491>  to clarify the idea, suggested education-team should be a discussion group which could help with advice(s) action teams and other people on the field.
 168 <jean7491>  but we need a volunteer to start with and lead the project
 169 <jean7491> suggestion ?
 170 <ILUsion> I'm willing to work on content for the education-team but I do not want to be team lead
 171 <jean7491> ok, i took note of your proposal, same for bram (blankenberghe)
 172 <jean7491> we continue with topic # 3. Update Wiki 
 173 <jean7491> item #1 I found a wiki page about linux/ubuntu courses and updated  the page with my information:
 174 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Education/NL/Courses
 175 <jean7491> please feel free to contribute to the update of the page
 176 <jean7491> next : item #2 structure of the wiki
 177 <jean7491> I found a lot of pages like stand-alone because not linked with the home page of the belgian team
 178 <jean7491> i propose to review the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam 
 179 <JanC> about education, adding Belgian schools that use Ubuntu to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Education/UbuntuSchools might be a good task to start with too
 180 <JanC> jean7491: maybe some of those pages are outdated too?
 181 <JanC> the standalone ones I mean?
 182 <jean7491> but sometimes interessant, for example 2008kickoff pages ... and others
 183 <jean7491> and first step to link all (non outdated) wiki pages to the home page through several levels –
 184 <jean7491>  the 1st level can be limited to 10 topics 1. Mission - 2. Who - 3. Contact- 4. Meetings - 5. Activities - 6. Education and documentation - 7. Public Relations- 8. Material - 9. Support - 10. To Do
 185 <jean7491> and the rest will follow in other levels
 186 <jean7491> likely we need a specific meeting on this topic and a good preparation
 187 <jean7491> of course not everybody is interested in this topic (but i learned a lot by surfing in our wiki)
 188 <jean7491> other comment on this topic update of the wiki ?
 189 <massimo21> ther is a lot of work on ia1a2a3a4a5t
 190 <massimo21> on it
 191 <jean7491> idd
 192 * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg)
 193 <jean7491> but not for today !
 194 <jean7491> topic# 4. Support points map status 
 195 <jean7491> map has been replaced by a list of support points which renewed their commitments 
 196 <jean7491> mongolito404 is working further on this issue, 
 197 <jean7491> i've no other information on this topic 
 198 <jean7491> next topic # 5. Things living in the mailing list and others questions ?
 199 <jean7491>  Belgian team monthly report : we still need someone taking the lead for monthly reporting 
 200 <jean7491> aim is to inform ubuntu community about our activity 
 201 <jean7491> JanC for comment ?
 202 <JanC> hm, yeah, I should make the report this week I suppose
 203 <jean7491> perhaps just create the page "current", for which day of the month ?
 204 <jean7491> i've to check again how we should work
 205 <JanC> yeah, I know there is a page on the wiki on how to do it  ☺
 206 <jean7491> other question not in the agenda ?
 207 <jean7491> if no other question,  last topic, next irc meeting ? 
 208 <jean7491> proposed on wednesday 06/10 or thursday 07/10 at 21 h. ?
 209 <jean7491> your choice ?
 210 <JanC> both are okay for me, maybe also ask warddr or whoever else we want to be there?
 211 <massimo21> both are ok for me too
 212 <clamam> both ok
 213 <jean7491> ILUsion ?
 214 <jean7491> as warddr already told he is ot available wednesday, let's try thursday 07/10, hoping he will jointhursday 07/10 at 21 h. 
 215 <massimo21> ok
 216 <massimo21> good night
 217 <jean7491> end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, and have a good night !
 218 <clamam> good night
 219 * clamam (~claudio@d54C1F823.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 220 * massimo21 (~massimo21@212.87.112.120) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 221 <ILUsion> sorry; was a bit distracted. Both dates are fine for me
 222 <jean7491> it's thursday 07/10, good night !
 223 <ILUsion> good night!