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Download 1 (13:03:13) #ubuntu-be: Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2009-11-18 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
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3 (21:00:23) jean7491: ja, hi to all ! :) who is here for the meeting ?
4 (21:00:32) LarsB: I am xD
5 (21:00:39) nero_: ready
6 (21:02:20) jean7491: hello LarsB, nero_
7 (21:03:17) jean7491: Gh0sty? hfsdo? JanC, and others ?
8 (21:03:18) nero_: waiting for others??
9 (21:03:42) jean7491: yes, usually 15 min !
10 (21:04:30) nero_: ;-)
11 (21:04:35) mongolito404: Hello world
12 (21:04:49) LarsB: hi mongolito404
13 (21:05:11) jean7491: hello mongolito404
14 (21:05:24) nero_: hi there
15 (21:09:58) jean7491: Gh0sty ? hfsdo ? JanC ?
16 (21:13:41) nero_ a quitté le salon (quit: Nick collision from services.)
17 (21:15:06) jean7491: let's start now
18 (21:15:15) jean7491: topic 1. future events, topic 2. promotion material, topic 3. things living in the mailing list
19 (21:15:39) jean7491: topic 1. future events
20 (21:15:53) jean7491: dipro fair antwerp 29/11
21 (21:16:08) jean7491: manning of the booth is ok, the team will be coordinate tby bram.
22 (21:16:22) jean7491: about material: enough hardware and promotion material are available
23 (21:16:43) jean7491: any comment ?
24 (21:17:01) LarsB: Nope
25 (21:17:11) LarsB: Well yes actually
26 (21:17:17) LarsB: where do I pick up the event box?
27 (21:17:23) LarsB: After the fair
28 (21:17:25) nero__ [i=3eeb818b@gateway/web/freenode/x-ywvlgabqlyojfnqr] a rejoint le salon.
29 (21:17:28) LarsB: for in Genk
30 (21:18:40) jean7491: bram is coordinator and has promo-material for genk + the event-box, i will mail you details
31 (21:19:10) LarsB: ok
32 (21:19:21) jean7491: next item : dipro fair genk 06/12 (21:19:31) jean7491: manning of the booth (4) is ok,
33 (21:19:51) jean7491: about material: enough hardware, 2 pc's (from sponsor alupcs) are at disposal,
34 (21:20:25) LarsB: Someone said in the mailing list something about a laptop with Kubuntu?
35 (21:20:32) LarsB: Was he talking about my laptop?
36 (21:20:46) jean7491: and promotion material set is available in antwerp
37 (21:20:55) jean7491: about kubuntu ...
38 (21:22:07) jean7491: jan, team genk) said he has a laptop with kubuntu (eventually, if needed)
39 (21:22:23) LarsB: ow ok
40 (21:22:43) jean7491: i'll send you his mail
41 (21:22:49) LarsB: I found some paper sleeves btw for the cd's, I hope I can print about 20 of them, my inkt cartridge is almost empty
42 (21:23:03) LarsB: Those 20 in the event box are blanc, non-printed?
43 (21:23:55) nero__: I got kicked out in Empathy. Did I missed something?
44 (21:24:11) jurgentje [n=jurgentj@d51A5028A.access.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon.
45 (21:24:17) jean7491: yes, blank, with 1 printed --- inkt cartridge are available in the dipro fair at low price ;-)
46 (21:24:32) jurgentje: Hi... little late... sorry.
47 (21:25:05) jean7491: nero__ we just spoke about dipro a'pen en genk
48 (21:25:26) nero__: OK
49 (21:25:35) LarsB: I only use original cartridges, no fake stuff that say they are cheaper but just have less ink
50 (21:26:29) jean7491: for jurgentje: about a'pen > manning of the booth is ok, the team will be coordinate tby bram. about material: enough hardware and promotion material are available
51 (21:27:07) guydup [n=guydup@d51530769.static.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon.
52 (21:27:14) jean7491: LarsB: I only bought original hp cartridges ;-)
53 (21:27:29) LarsB: do they have original on the fair?
54 (21:27:33) jean7491: hello guydup
55 (21:27:49) jean7491: LarsB yes
56 (21:27:56) guydup: goodevening
57 (21:27:59) jurgentje: jean: thanks. Anything was said about Mechelen? (I'll be at both, so I can take care of the traffic from Mechelen to Antwerp
58 (21:29:08) jurgentje: brb... wife shouting :s
59 (21:29:35) jean7491: jurgentje : we just spoke about dipro a'pen en genk, did you receive my mail about a'pen dipro?
60 (21:29:53) rulus a quitté le salon (quit: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
61 (21:30:30) jean7491: next item is dipro fair mechelen 13/12
62 (21:30:43) jean7491: manning of the booth (5) is ok,
63 (21:31:10) jean7491: promotion material set is available in antwerp
64 (21:31:14) nero__: who's in charge?
65 (21:31:38) LarsB: Who will coordinate Genk btw?
66 (21:31:57) jurgentje: jean: I did... in my head, I switched them around (I thought Mechelen was first, but apparently my agenda knew it better) :)
67 (21:32:42) jean7491: mechelen : 1 of the 5 volunteers ? i don't know who is volunteer to coordinate the event ?
68 (21:32:54) jurgentje: Enough folks for Antwerp? Because I've got a pretty busy schedule, and then I'd come over in the afternoon, hop along, have a look and a listen... help clean up and take the stuff with me.
69 (21:33:42) jurgentje: For Mechelen, we're at least with 2 persons from our HCC (but we both haven't been at an Ubuntu-stand before, so it's new for the both of us)
70 (21:33:45) nero__: never did it before, so I have no experience
71 (21:33:58) jean7491: jurgentje : propose it to bram ! should be no problem
72 (21:34:14) jurgentje: Don't have his mail address... could you give it?
73 (21:35:03) jean7491: done by pm
74 (21:35:10) jurgentje: okay :)
75 (21:36:13) nero__: i didn't got it :(
76 (21:36:33) jean7491: jurgen, i suggest you coordinate the event as you will have experience from a'pen dipro ;-);-);-) of course i'll help you !
77 (21:36:44) jurgentje: :p
78 (21:37:32) jurgentje: I'm completely new in my job too (teaching) ... what's all the coordinating about? I don't have much time outside the Dipro day itself...
79 (21:39:03) mongolito404: I had the intention of talking about the supporters map (topic 3) but I've other obligations I didn't expect... I've to go. Sorry. I'll try to be here next week.
80 (21:39:13) jean7491: does frank, marc or andy have experience of dipro ? coordination is just exchange information between the volunteers to be sure material and people will be present : just write in the wiki and send a few mails
81 (21:40:18) jean7491: mongolito404 if you have a few minutes we can jump to support points maps now
82 (21:40:34) mongolito404: Ok
83 (21:40:36) jean7491: and come back later to mechelen dipro
84 (21:40:55) jurgentje: okido
85 (21:41:00) nero__: fine 4 me
86 (21:41:06) jean7491: About Support points - questions about the reliability and the update of the list/map, ...
87 (21:41:19) jean7491: as already stated, we need to update the support map as the lack of reaction of support points gives a negative image of ubuntu community.
88 (21:41:30) jean7491: but the support points map is usefull. although it is not the purpose of the map, i used it to call volunteers for dipro fairs with approximately 10 to 15% of (positive) answers.
89 (21:41:43) jean7491: these volunteers are well motivated (mostly 2 participations) or express their readiness to help in the future.
90 (21:42:19) jean7491: the map is a very good tool, a pity to lose it !
91 (21:42:33) jean7491: but it needs an update
92 (21:42:42) mongolito404: The last time I suggested we drop the current. Handed the database to a few trusted members. I was rejected and I understand it.
93 (21:44:01) mongolito404: The best way to update the map, is to leverage our Drupal site. The first step would be to enable a member contact form on the website. This is easily doable in Drupal.
94 (21:45:05) jurgentje: A reminder mail (with an opt-out link) twice a year could help a lot on keeping the list reliable... that too is doable I think in Drupal (I know it is in Joomla) ;)
95 (21:45:06) mongolito404: Then we need a way for site member (registred user) to state their commitments and a way for visitor to search members based on their commitments.
96 (21:46:22) mongolito404: The search result could be displayed as list and/or map. Once we have a list, doing a map is easy with a few JavaScript magic.
97 (21:46:50) jurgentje: I think the eyecandy shouldn't be a priority indeed...
98 (21:47:08) mongolito404: And finally, additional features such a opt-out link could be added using whatever Drupal provides.
99 (21:48:13) mongolito404: This is the plan of action in my head. As always, I plan to work on it someday but I haven't find to time to start to whole thing.
100 (21:49:46) jurgentje: okay... great :)
101 (21:49:59) jurgentje: I'd like to look over your shoulders and learn along. :)
102 (21:50:18) mongolito404: Any help is welcome. Volunteers are strongly invited to contact me as having to work with me is highly motivating.
103 (21:50:19) guydup: jean,do you know something about tis ocr meeting from digipolis,i see your name on the list
104 (21:50:23) LarsB: mongolito404: you know how to write modules for Drupal?
105 (21:50:35) mongolito404: LarsB: Yes, I do.
106 (21:51:08) LarsB: I do know how to write in PHP, but I was reading some documentation on the drupal site about writing modules
107 (21:51:13) LarsB: I can give you a hand if you Like
108 (21:51:34) LarsB: But I have no experience with writing drupal modules
109 (21:52:11) jurgentje: Same here (but quite novice) - I'd especially like to learn along
110 (21:52:24) jean7491: first step: contact form should be completed with things like "help ubuntu event" y/n, reaction time for an answer (3 days ?), regular update, possibility to cancel participation ... perhaps start with where to put ideas about it ?
111 (21:52:46) mongolito404: Ok, I will have to leave now. If people are interested, we can schedule a first IRC meeting in the coming day. Contact me on IRC (I'm logged on the server most of the time, but not in any channel) or through Jabber/email mongolito404@gmail.com
112 (21:53:38) jean7491: ok mongolito404, bye
113 (21:53:43) LarsB: Can i add you on jabber?
114 (21:53:54) mongolito404: LarsB yes
115 (21:54:17) LarsB: ok :)
116 (21:55:01) mongolito404 a quitté le salon (quit: "Leaving.")
117 (21:56:31) jean7491: guydup you received mail from martine on 13/11, i try to have kenneth going to the meeting on 14/12
118 (21:56:48) jean7491: coming back to mechelen dipro ...
119 (21:57:27) guydup: ok,
120 (21:57:30) nero__: K
121 (21:57:34) guydup a quitté le salon (quit: "Java user signed off")
122 (21:57:54) jean7491: additional promo material could be available in ostend (in december), if possible for nero_ ?
123 (21:59:02) nero__: I'll come to Oudenburg on a Saturday, can meet there or in Ostend
124 (21:59:58) jean7491: yes in december (5/12?)
125 (22:00:36) nero__: K, send me a mail with the location.
126 (22:01:10) jean7491: nero_ : ok -- coordination will be necessary for material and hardware: just fill the wiki
127 (22:01:15) jean7491: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Mechelen_2009-12-13
128 (22:01:36) LarsB: Can anyone fill in the wiki?
129 (22:02:43) jean7491: yes, with your launchpad registration
130 (22:02:52) LarsB: ok
131 (22:02:52) nero__: need to find my way...
132 (22:03:10) LarsB: jean, can you pm me Bram's email ?
133 (22:04:27) jean7491: nero_ you first need a launchpad registration in the belgian loco team
134 (22:05:43) jean7491: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be
135 (22:06:31) nero__: Already have one. But what/where should I put details? F.i. I have 2 eID card readers...
136 (22:06:45) jean7491: and in the wiki page above right : login
137 (22:08:00) nero__: I'll try, correct it if needed...
138 (22:08:09) jean7491: when logged in, you can edit the text of the page, and after preview, save
139 (22:08:51) jurgentje: Nero talked about creating a hotspot using a 3G card and a computer as gateway...
140 (22:09:37) LarsB: jurgentje, that could work but if you fall down on edge for some reason, you can't get a site open with 2 computers at the same time
141 (22:09:58) LarsB: And 3G is not always that fast neither
142 (22:10:00) jurgentje: Nero: while you're editing: I can bring along my sound set (it's not that huge, but it's a small 5.1 set)
143 (22:10:23) jurgentje: LarsB: yeps... I know. Worth trying though?
144 (22:10:35) LarsB: it sure is :) Im taking mine too to genk
145 (22:10:37) jurgentje: (we also have 2 3G cards... I have one and Nero has one)
146 (22:11:00) jean7491: in fact an internet access is useful, but we usually don't have (and don't need) in dipro
147 (22:11:31) LarsB: jean7491: does the event box have the stick with the iso's? Or we make it ourselves? (no problem I allready downloaded them)
148 (22:11:35) nero__: Done, can you review?
149 (22:12:41) jean7491: most of the questions are very basic, ... dual boot and use live- cd, sometimes more complicated questions (then is internet useful as documentation
150 (22:13:07) nero__: Internet connection is allways usefull for updates after install
151 (22:13:08) jean7491: LarsB : no usb-stick, do-it-yourself !
152 (22:13:31) LarsB: ok, ill bring the stick to genk then xD
153 (22:14:28) jean7491: nero_ : ok for wiki!
154 (22:14:36) nero__: :)
155 (22:16:58) jean7491: jurgen, as start of coordination, send a mail to other participants with suggestion to look at the wiki and give you remarks (but no panic, we (you) have a lot of time!)
156 (22:17:41) jean7491: 1 important detail, don't forget a contribution urn !
157 (22:18:19) LarsB: Where do we find one?
158 (22:18:30) Gh0sty a quitté le salon (quit: "Reconnecting")
159 (22:18:32) Gh0sty [n=ghosty@ip-83-134-168-94.dsl.scarlet.be] a rejoint le salon.
160 (22:18:42) jurgentje: okay... I'll be sending the mail asap...
161 (22:18:52) jurgentje: is there an easy way to find all the email addresses?
162 (22:19:17) jurgentje: people for Mechelen now on IRC: PM me with your email plz ;)
163 (22:19:46) nero__: How do I PM from the web interface???
164 (22:19:56) LarsB: what web interface? Launchpad?
165 (22:20:22) jurgentje: I mean here in IRC :)
166 (22:20:28) nero__: Nope, IRC
167 (22:20:36) jurgentje: just type: /msg Jurgentje myaddress@mydomain.be
168 (22:20:41) LarsB: Just dubble click the name or /query nick
169 (22:20:47) LarsB: or what jurgentje told you :p
170 (22:22:08) nero__: Jurgen, did you receive it?
171 (22:22:12) LarsB: jean7491: I edited the wiki page of Genk fair a little
172 (22:22:16) jurgentje: nope
173 (22:22:54) jurgentje: got it :)
174 (22:25:24) jurgentje: okay... now I still need the addresses of Frank, Marc, AndyAirey
175 (22:25:34) jurgentje: is there a way to find those?
176 (22:25:49) jurgentje: Jean: you don't have them?
177 (22:26:41) jean7491: did you receive copy of mails i sent to frank, marc and andy ?
178 (22:26:44) LarsB: some of them you can find on the launchpad page I think
179 (22:27:05) jurgentje: only Andy has a link, but it doesn't work
180 (22:27:30) nero__: I got it :)
181 (22:27:38) LarsB: Andy is a link to a wiki page
182 (22:27:42) LarsB: not a launchpad page
183 (22:28:01) jurgentje: but I found his launchpad info in the wiki history
184 (22:28:07) jurgentje: didn't find the others though
185 (22:28:12) LarsB: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be
186 (22:28:23) LarsB: Sometimes you can find them in there
187 (22:29:28) jurgentje: Frank = Franky?
188 (22:31:10) jurgentje: okay well... if you're making the meeting report: ask the members to contact me (add my address, I'm contributing already, so my address is known) . Okay Jean?
189 (22:31:25) jurgentje: or JanC (don't know who'll do the reporting?
190 (22:31:40) jean7491: jurgentje : i sent you the info for team mechelen via pm - ok i'll do it
191 (22:32:12) LarsB: Jean who is the coordinator of Genk?
192 (22:33:33) jurgentje: jean: got it ... Just not that happy with the Empathy IRC stuff... I'll go back to xIRC or so. :p
193 (22:33:34) jean7491: eventually discuss it with other volunteers ! i think only koen has experience dipro hasselt,
194 (22:34:01) LarsB: jurgentje: xChat :)
195 (22:34:16) jurgentje: LarsB: idd my bad
196 (22:35:12) jean7491: lars, you can send a mail to the 3 others for internal coordination!
197 (22:35:57) LarsB: jep ok :)
198 (22:35:59) jean7491: i'll write some tips for dipro and send it to genk and mechelen teams, as i did for oostmalle
199 (22:36:13) jurgentje: great!
200 (22:36:25) jean7491: this week or in december
201 (22:36:28) LarsB: If I may I want to kinda coordinate the stuff, I have no fair experience though
202 (22:37:25) jurgentje: Okay, I'll dismiss myself.
203 (22:37:49) jean7491: just ask koen what he thought about hasselt dipro
204 (22:38:52) jean7491: going ahead with next event ...
205 (22:39:01) jurgentje a quitté le salon
206 (22:39:52) jean7491: event in ghent : 14/12 proposed meeting digipolis on openbaar computer ruimtes (where we canh present of ubuntu )
207 (22:40:21) jean7491: i hope kenneth can be present at the meeting, but we certainly need assitance for him : are there volunteers from ghent available to help kenneth?
208 (22:40:30) jean7491: Gh0sty ?
209 (22:40:41) jean7491: selckin ?
210 (22:40:54) selckin: thats me
211 (22:41:13) Gh0sty: ¿¿
212 (22:41:25) nero__: I'll switch to xChat...
213 (22:41:31) nero__ a quitté le salon
214 (22:41:37) Gh0sty: sorry volg niet met andere dingen bezig
215 (22:43:25) jean7491: about meeting digipolis in ghent on 14/12 am : not sure kenneth will be available, but he certainly needs help for this meeting : we need people from ghent !
216 (22:44:59) jean7491: digipolis ghent http://www.digipolis.be
217 (22:45:40) selckin: also not been reading, and no clue what you're really talking about
218 (22:45:53) nero__ [n=nero@62.235.129.139] a rejoint le salon.
219 [10:41pm] <Gh0sty> sorry volg niet met andere dingen bezig
220 [10:43pm] <jean7491> about meeting digipolis in ghent on 14/12 am : not sure kenneth will be available, but he certainly needs help for this meeting : we need people from ghent !
221 [10:44pm] <jean7491> digipolis ghent http://www.digipolis.be
222 [10:45pm] <selckin> also not been reading, and no clue what you're really talking about
223 [10:45pm] nero__ (n=nero@62.235.129.139) betrad het kanaal.
224 [10:48pm] <nero__>:)
225 [10:52pm] <LarsB> Ghent is a little bit to far away for me
226 [10:53pm]t00r_ (n=t00r@unaffiliated/t00r) verliet het kanaal. (Remote closed the connection)
227 [10:53pm] <nero__> Did I miss something while fiddling around?
228 [10:54pm] <LarsB> What cpu do you at least need to get ubuntu working well?
229 [10:54pm] <nero__> Ubuntu, or a derivate?
230 [10:54pm] <LarsB> Ubuntu
231 [10:55pm] jean7491_ (n=jm@213.219.169.113.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net) betrad het kanaal.
232 [10:55pm] <LarsB> hi jean7491_
233 [10:55pm] t00r (n=t00r@unaffiliated/t00r) betrad het kanaal.
234 [10:55pm] <jean7491_> sorry my pc icrashed
235 [10:55pm] <LarsB> np :)
236 [10:56pm] <jean7491_> lars, cantill now you send me via mail the log of the chat
237 [10:56pm] <nero__> I just installed Masonux (a Karmic with LXDE) on a thinkpad 600x (PIII 466MHz, 512MB)
238 [10:56pm] <nero__> It runs verry well
239 [10:57pm] <jean7491_> lars, can you send me ...
240 [10:57pm] <LarsB> yes * Er is een CTCP VERSION ontvangen van freenode-connect
241 <jean7491_> sorry my pc icrashed
242 <LarsB> yes
243 * bbartek heeft verlaten ("Ik ga weg")
244 <jean7491_> i was speaking about digipolis meeting with Gh0sty and selckin ...
245 <LarsB> sent
246 <selckin> both of us have no idea what this is
247 <Gh0sty> i do but busy busy busy
248 <LarsB> jean7491_: can you read the mail? I just notice it is html and not plain text
249 <jean7491_> i received this about the ocr in ghent (Openbare Computer Ruimtes) ...
250 <jean7491_> Ik ontving van ieder van jullie een acceptatie om een presentatie te geven in het kader van een meeting over Openbare Computer Ruimtes. Deze meeting is gericht naar de verantwoordelijken van openbare computer ruimtes en organisaties die eraan denken om een openbare computer ruimte op te starten. De bedoeling van de meeting zou zijn om hen te inspireren, te informeren en te begeleiden om een kwaliteitslabel te kunnen bekomen voor h
251 <jean7491_> un ruimte.
252 <jean7491_> om een kwaliteitslabel te kunnen bekomen voor hun ruimte.
253 <jean7491_>
254 <jean7491_> Ik stel voor om deze meeting te laten doorgaan op 14 december van 9 uur tot 12 uur.
255 <jean7491_> during this meeting we have 15 min. to present ubuntu
256 <selckin> not something i can help with
257 * jean7491 heeft verlaten (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
258 <jean7491_> lars, can you send again the log, copy and paste it as simple text in a mail
259 <jean7491_> next item is looking for the future 2010
260 <LarsB> sent
261 <jean7491_> last meeting i suggested to think about a release party for 10.04 : is the a wish in ubuntu-be to organize a large rp, as in 2008 for 8.04 ?
262 <LarsB> I wasn't there in 2008 but I would love to help on this rp :)
263 <jean7491_> ideas and comments can be send to the mailing list
264 <LarsB> I hope we can get enough cd's on the RP
265 <jean7491_> you don't need experience for release party, just post your comment in the mailing list,
266 <jean7491_> before to end the meeting, i propose the next meeting on 25/12, but i will not be present, Jan will (i hope) do it !
267 <LarsB> Ok
268 <LarsB> You got the log properly now?
269 <LarsB> I have to go
270 <LarsB> C u tomorrow
271 * LarsB heeft verlaten ()
272 <jean7491_> ok, end of the meeting!
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