## page was renamed from ArizonaTeam/Meetings/MeetingTemplate <> ## Delete the below line after the meeting has been held or the Agenda otherwise finalized. If you have additions to the Agenda, please post them here after confirming with [[Johnc4510]] or [[IanMcewen]] == Agenda == 1. Introductions 1. Team Reports a. [[ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education|Education Team]] a. [[ArizonaTeam/Teams/Server|Server Team]] == Log == This will be posted after the meeting. ## Put the irc log into {{{ [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:02:22] ok, we ready to start ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:02:34] Yep [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:13] ok [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:23] any new members here? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:31] i'm a new man! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:35] tyche: how haven't we intro'd [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:36] I'm blaaaaahhh!!! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:40] LOL [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:53] draker: you're a visitor right [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:54] draker, Wolf_45 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:00] yea they had me take stupid courses [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:09] i tested out of computers thankfully [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:24] Hey, I was here last week! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:25] Hey, we're an equal opportunity picker. Make them introduce themselves, too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:37] visitor? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:38] yeah Wolf_45 did it last wk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:42] Ah, OK Wolf_45. You're off the hook. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:01] I'm just hangin out.. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:05] what about me? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:13] This channel is more active that #ubuntu-oregon [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:19] draker: well, you still have to intro yourself [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:20] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:29] just a line or two about you [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:33] I want to introduce me! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:42] team this is blaaaaahhh [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:45] happy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:46] ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:50] LOL [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:50] no. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:52] C'mon draker. Anyone named Craig can't be all bad. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:57] I must introduce me. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:57] psssst, tyche. My week to be in the pickle barrel is in January. ;-) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:08] draker: tell us where you are from [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:17] :D [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:27] Oregon [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:27] * word guesses oregon [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:34] damnit >< [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:36] draker: that's because you're never around in ubuntu-oregon [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:38] no i look like an idiot [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:41] you haven't said anything all day [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:53] * johnc4510 ok, i think draker is from the oregon team and is visiting [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:00] so we'll move on [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:01] Welcome, draker. We really aren't crazy. We only seem that way. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:06] my turn! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:08] posingaspopular, look again. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:11] * word thinks draker already said he was from oregon and visiting :P [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:12] Everyone, i am blaaaaahhh. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:14] yes, welcome draker [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:16] In a past life, I was t00na. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:19] Thanks. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:23] oh fine, 4pm. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:23] But I moved on... [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:26] for a week... [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:28] * word thinks blaaaaahhh is hindu [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:29] let's get this meeting going... [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:36] Just one week, then i'm back to t00na [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:39] * blaaaaahhh done [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:42] * johnc4510 ok i have the floor again please [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:44] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:49] posingaspopular, I am up all night usually =) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:52] next is the server [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:54] so [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:00] yea that sounds like me too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:13] tomorrow we should have the domain name up and running [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:17] azloco.org [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:20] so [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:34] enigmastrat: can we load the page you have? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:41] i know it's not done but [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:43] johnc4510: is it propogating? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:50] * word just wanted to say propogating [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:58] i would like to get something up on the server [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:09:51] enigmastrat: you here? johnc4510 nudges enigmastrat [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:09:55] hey [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:00] ehy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:02] hey [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:07] sorry, I was making sure my dog couldn't dig out of my yard [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:17] can we can your page loaded on the server? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:25] sure [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:32] you all see it? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:37] i'm doing the domain name tomorrow, and i would like to see it up [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:40] yes [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:42] i did [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:53] http://home.cypheye.com:8000/azloco/ [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:11:04] that is the link to the prototype [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:11:26] i know some changes could still be made [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:11:32] can I get the server IP? I have misplacedc it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:11:47] 12.159.65.83 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:22] enigmastrat: it's no problem to make changes after it's up on the server is it? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:27] nope [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:30] kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:32] i <3 it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:42] in fact, there will still be tons of changes to be made [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:47] right now it;'s still raw HTML [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:53] kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:01] enigmastrat: thought about making it a template for a CMS? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:14] so, like out in the right hand side, we can put our links that we want? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:16] would take most of the hard work out of it i'd think [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:39] I've never done a CMS template, but I'm willing to learn [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:45] raw HTML works for me......for what that's worth. :-) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:53] I'd like to do PHP [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:14:19] Do we have PHP on the server? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:14:33] it's easy to setup, I'm not sure if it's there already [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:14:40] hmm best known CMS's are wordpress and Drupal, i'd reccomend drupal tbh. You can probably download a template and take a look at how it's done, or find some help documentation [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:14:40] those are all things we can discuss as we go along. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:14:50] do we have Rails on the server? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:09] enigmastrat: so, like out in the right hand side, we can put our links that we want? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:19] in the brown section [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:38] or whatever that color is hee hee [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:45] i think it'd look ugly to have links there :-/ [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:45] ubuntu brown i guess [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:48] That would be ok, but I've got the menus at the top for that [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:53] it's probably more intended to be centered [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:16:00] enigmastrat: k, looking [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:16:30] mouse over Team, Ubuntu, and LUGs [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:16:56] I can make them more Menu-esque to be more obvious [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:10] enigmastrat: nice, there not hot yet i see [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:12] also [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:26] right, they don't link to anything [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:37] one team page is missing at a quick glance, the main team wiki page [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:45] np [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:57] ok, that'll get added to the list when we get all the links in there [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:04] kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:13] enigmastrat: you've done a great job btw [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:14] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:15] ty [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:20] thank you [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:21] johnc4510: does the server have rails? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:53] blaaaaahhh: i don't think so yet, ask slofgren next time he's in channel [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:19:09] he knows more about what's been installed [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:19:13] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:19:15] now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:19:41] * johnc4510 does anyone have comments or suggestions about the page ?? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:15] It had been suggested that we put the Team logo at the top. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:22] likes, dislikes [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:25] suggestions [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:33] RAILS [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:43] Why do you want rails? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:47] kk, blaaaaahhh wants rails [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:47] SRSLY, PHP is blaaaaahhh [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:21:12] Anything like that takes space on the very small hard drive. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:21:31] We have to work within our limits [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:21:31] i dont like the cactus/mesa/mountian thing on the right hand side. why are cacti and mountains growing horizontally? maybe change it so its not a straight vertial line, like a torn page but i dont like what we have now. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:21:46] i know, but we'll only have a CMS on it, right? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:21:59] Polygon89: kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:02] Even that takes space, blaaaaahhh [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:15] how big is the hard drive? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:23] do you know rails? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:34] * blaaaaahhh learning it for #tol [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:53] the blaaaaahhh is coding it for LoCo [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:54] Polygon89: would you rather see that blank, or another type of outline [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:07] yay! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:07] like a torn page or something [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:15] something not like straight vertical line like [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:21] something uneven [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:31] like the rest of the border? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:34] like a fuzz effect? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:49] im thinking like a torn page you know [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:59] you tear a page in half and it like has hills and valleys and stuff [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:09] or something along those lines [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:21] like [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:22] * johnc4510 ok, lets have some discussion on Polygon89 idea please [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:23] the left side is [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:23] It's called a deckled edge [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:30] Join SlickMcRunfast_G has joined this channel (n=mark@ip72-208-244-134.ph.ph.cox.net). [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:32] except only like [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:35] more uneven [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:37] tyche: what do you think? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:25:13] Declked edge wouldn't be bad. Likewise silhouet of cacti done vertically. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:25:29] where would that be at? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:25:36] SlickMcRunfast_G: hi, we're discussing this page for server:http://home.cypheye.com:8000/azloco/ [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:25:36] On the right. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:25:55] Also, I think it should be centered more. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:22] centered is easy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:27] * johnc4510 centered more, or the part with the text expanded maybe [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:27] kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:38] it could be wider i think [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:39] Yea, maybe that, too. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:51] to give us more space to text in [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:54] right now it accomodates down to 800x600 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:22] * johnc4510 well, most folks have bigger monitors than that don't they [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:28] in this day and age [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:28] That explains why it only takes up half my screen. Hee hee [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:29] ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:34] average is 1024 I believe [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:34] yeah [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:35] mine too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:45] 1440 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:48] enigmastrat: ok, can we expand it to the avg [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:49] ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:58] I suppose so [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:19] i'm at 1600x1050 and it's pretty small on the screen [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:20] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:31] That's what I'm at too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:35] and I agree [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:36] johnc4510: showoff. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:44] tyche: ty [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:44] 1680x1050 actually [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:46] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:51] right [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:59] don't leave out that 80 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:02] i stand corrected [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:06] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:08] it'll feel abandoned [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:13] sure [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:15] ok [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:16] so [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:30] we're going to expand the page [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:31] and [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:52] possibly change the border to something like Polygon89 wanted [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:04] k [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:10] we can at least look at that and see how it works [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:12] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:26] * johnc4510 loves it, we are making progress here [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:27] LOL [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:45] Yea, I really think so. :-) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:45] * johnc4510 ok, any other discussion on the page [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:31:10] now it's at http://12.159.65.83/~enigmastrat/azloco [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:31:31] I don't think I have access to root, but it's there for whoever does to copy it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:31:40] *access to the web root [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:31:47] ok, then, enigmastrat thanks for the hard work [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:32:00] enigmastrat: kk, i'll talk to slofgren about root for you then [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:32:02] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:32:45] ok, next [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:03] ed team [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:15] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:33] ok, tyche and i have done some work on the page yesterday [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:34] and [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:48] i would like to go over it and get ideas and suggestions [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:51] first [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:34:21] i dont think my computer is powerful enough for screencasts, all the vidoes im taking are really low fps... like 16 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:34:31] under the introduction, i added a gutsy guide [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:34:53] btw, this team is for education of new and prospective members [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:03] that guide is very good [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:04] and [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:12] i recommend it to all [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:16] http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:29] i even learn a few things from it now and then [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:33] so [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:40] The guide, as you notice, is off-site. But done very well [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:36:14] the intro section is pretty well done unless you folks have other suggestions [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:36:17] ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:37:06] * johnc4510 k, the next section is Ubuntu and we've add the installation link and the upgrade link [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:37:19] the upgrade link is in house ubuntu [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:37:26] but the install link isn't [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:37:46] but it is a good how to on installing i think [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:37:57] One thing I will add. johnc4510 and I felt that it was better not to try to re-invent the wheel. We made use of outside resources where they met or exceeded our expectations. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:12] right [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:37] there were items that we could save time on by using an outside source [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:38] if [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:43] they were worthy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:43] ill add something to that ubuntu guide thing. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:48] kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:08] i'm at 1024x768 :( [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:10] Polygon89: what did you have in mind? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:13] word: kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:28] in the dvd rip section [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:38] there is a much easier program then dvd rip (and i think faster too) called handbrake [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:45] kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:53] and some guy made a gtk gui out of mono so its even easier to use now instead of having to use the cli options [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:40:34] johnc4510: We may need to create an "add-ons" section in somewhere. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:40:48] Polygon89: kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:10] Handbrake sounds like a good candidate for that. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:16] Polygon89: and tyche i think anybody is able to edit that guide [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:27] cool. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:31] Oh, now there's a thought. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:43] I didn't look at it that closely [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:46] there is an edit tab at the top [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:42:03] kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:42:18] now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:42:45] the installing guide is very good because it's in depth and has a lot of screenshot to go with it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:43:02] it makes it a little easier to follow for new folks [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:43:39] k, next is the Installing Software guide [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:43:47] it's out sourced too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:04] it's one that i have used and recommend to folks for a long time now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:11] i wonder if they updated the numlock on startup [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:24] it goes over all the ways to install [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:25] why gnome hasnt implemented this already by default is unknown to me.. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:44] Polygon89: i would have to look at that [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:59] the feisty guide didnt work as the x11 folder got moved [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:45:00] lol [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:45:16] i have a written guide i follow at set up and numlock is one of the things [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:45:27] oh yeah, it did [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:17] /etc/gdm/Init/Default [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:22] that's where it is now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:46] well before you had to put it in like [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:50] xorg.conf or something [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:56] yep [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:56] somewhere in the x11 folder [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:47:02] yep [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:47:13] k, any suggestions so far [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:47:15] ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:10] not really [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:19] * johnc4510 in the next sub header, accessibility thru Office, we have listed the apps available at install [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:31] with links to the home pages of each app [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:50] As well as short descriptions [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:50] you can take a look at accessories, and see what i mean [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:59] right [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:49:22] now, it is our plan to add optional apps below, as we go along [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:49:23] but [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:49:35] we wanted to get the pages going with the basics [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:49:47] also tovid can be used to make video dvds and that site doesnt have it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:50:17] * johnc4510 does anyone have ideas or suggestions on the basic setup or what we've done so far [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:50:22] good or bad [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:50:23] np [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:50:24] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:51:38] * johnc4510 k, does everyone think a new or prospective member could follow these items and benefit from them? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:13] kk, then we will continue on in this manner, but [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:20] :D [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:25] anyone having suggestions, just let us know [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:26] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:29] now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:47] * johnc4510 we want to implement a mail support idea [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:04] oh? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:18] Basically, to help people to help themselves [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:27] this would be a central mail address where they could email a question or problem to an we as a team would try to help them via email [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:30] Or to find out where to get help that we can't provide. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:38] right [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:49] everyone like that idea [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:49] ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:56] sure [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:07] kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:22] then, we need to figure out how to do that [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:27] what service to use [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:33] and how to implement it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:40] now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:46] And still retain our individual privacy. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:55:03] the idea i had was to have a gmail account set up to forward to the team mailing list [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:55:08] but, [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:55:26] i am open to ANY suggestions on this thought [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:55:53] Polygon89: any ideas any this? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:56:05] or a different way to go about it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:56:27] how would we view the messages? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:56:40] Polygon89: if we set it up that way [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:01] any team member register for the mailing list would get the email [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:03] and then [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:09] could respond to it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:16] ah [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:23] wouldent that remove our privacy then? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:35] if any of us cared about it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:40] No, because the gmail account would be the filter. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:47] but when we respond [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:51] they would see our address [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:52] no, no one can send to the mail list unless registered [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:03] they might [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:06] :( [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:17] so, any other ideas then [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:18] when we respond to the email, they would see its from our email to the persn [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:21] i dont really care [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:25] Yea, that was a side of it that I didn't think about. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:26] but we wont have privacy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:33] tyche: me either [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:37] that would be bad [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:38] gmail does a good job of spam filtering [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:40] so its fine [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:02] then maybe we should just have a gmail account? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:26] Or a forum set up somewhere. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:28] but then how do we get the rest of the team involved in helping out [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:39] the mailing list idea works [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:49] its just like with all other mailing lists, you wont be able to hide your email [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:52] i dont think its a prob [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:00:31] Polygon89: ok, you seem to know about servers, isn't there an app for setting up an email server? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:08] mailman [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:10] i believe [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:15] enigmastrat: isn't there an app for setting up an email server? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:17] is pretty much the standard for mailing lists [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:21] Polygon89: could be [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:32] lets see what enigmastrat knows about this [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:33] too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:45] you mean for sending e-mail? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:00] mailing lists [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:07] for having a mail server so we can have a support email account [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:13] I haven't messed with mailing lists [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:17] to help new and prospective members [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:21] For mailing lists, mailman is pretty much the de facto standard [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:21] ah kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:27] Wolf_45: hi [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:35] is that a big app [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:43] size wise i mean [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:51] we are limited on space [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:03:35] check it in synaptic [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:03:47] is this it?: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:04:05] most likely [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:04:47] 40 mb download size [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:04:55] probably bigger once unpacked [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:06] maybe we could work with that [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:13] check synaptic...i dont think it would be THAT big... [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:20] its just a mailing list app...cli... [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:24] that is the synaptic size [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:25] Latest tarball (2.1.9) is 7829201 bytes, but that's not dependencies [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:29] i looked [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:41] maybe all the deps add up to be 40 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:42] but like [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:50] intensive gui programs are not even 40 mb in size [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:54] how could that be [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:59] true [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:06:22] kk, i'll talk with slofgren some this wk and see what he thinks too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:06:34] so, can we table this till next wk? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:06:41] sure [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:06:50] I think that's a good idea [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:06:53] kk, anything else to talk about? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:00] anyone [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:04] Sharing information? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:17] tyche: expand please [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:26] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:35] Since we're linking to other sites, we should offer them the information we've developed on our own [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:44] true [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:49] like with the lugs [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:51] ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:08] is the meeting over? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:14] The lugs, the other sites that we linked to. Basically anyone who needs it. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:25] Even other Teams. Hee he [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:35] blaaaaahhh: in a sec [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:43] good idea tyche [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:51] johnc4510, mailman requirements are at http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/requirements.html :-) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:58] Wolf_45: ty [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:09:25] * Wolf_45 told you he'd come in handy for "something"! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:09:41] :-) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:09:47] :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:09:50] nice [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:09:57] ok, anything else? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:02]